1. Welcome to the Toram Online Forums. Please make sure to read our rules and be friendly to all our members.
    Click here to read the rules before posting.
    Dismiss Notice

Master Tonfa

Discussion in 'Brawler' started by Zephyr666, Aug 30, 2018.

  1. Yunan

    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2016
    Messages:
    2,109
    Likes Received:
    2,084
    IGN:
    Yunananan
    I see, thats great
     
  2. Lenwok

    Lenwok Elite Member Elite Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2017
    Messages:
    1,170
    Likes Received:
    509
    IGN:
    Lenwok
    Yes, check the screenshot of the 'sword conversion' skill on the other forum post. Only adds matk for 1h and 2hs. Knux has always been 50% of weapon atk.

    On a side note, when tanking/soloing this Ameoba miniboss, the AOE's are quite manageable, but the double auto attacks are really eating through my stash of eb's... Also Ameoba is very proration sensitive, the damage really drops if you use your physical skills in a row. Weaving in auto attacks is a must.
     
  3. Lenwok

    Lenwok Elite Member Elite Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2017
    Messages:
    1,170
    Likes Received:
    509
    IGN:
    Lenwok
    Some quick feedback (testing +9 tonfa ns on lvl 76 full agi char against big mask) - crit triple kick is similar damage to non-crit rush. Rush, when it crits, reaches double that damage.
     
  4. Zephyr666

    Zephyr666 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2016
    Messages:
    528
    Likes Received:
    286
    IGN:
    Zephyruu
    Lvl 3 skills are cool and all but imma stick to chariot even w the crit down debuff

    Quick question, full str is op but would it be a better idea to invest into secondary DEX after main AGI?
    Its not that im worried abt my chariots not critting as the damage is already high enough (and meikyo), im worried abt smash, sonic wave, stun, etc., not critting.
    Brawlers dont gain literally any HIT that easy, but with Tyrant, could that be a slightly not bad idea?
     
  5. Lenwok

    Lenwok Elite Member Elite Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2017
    Messages:
    1,170
    Likes Received:
    509
    IGN:
    Lenwok
    Yeah im in same idea. Thinking I'll meikyo chariot (long combo) and chance it for rush. Current setup 71% crit.

    Im also wondering whats a good stat after agi. dex gives hit+(slight)atk. But considering rest vit to bulk up some more in case I'm unlucky with pdef+dodge.
     
  6. Lenwok

    Lenwok Elite Member Elite Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2017
    Messages:
    1,170
    Likes Received:
    509
    IGN:
    Lenwok
    On a side, yet still very relevant, note... this weapon works really well on luk mage. I am getting more matk with it than main anniv vii MD. Still get to keep the MD bonuses as subweapon.

    However you may get insta-kicked because they don't believe you're a mage LOL~
     
  7. Alzarith

    Alzarith Elite Member Elite Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2015
    Messages:
    1,276
    Likes Received:
    1,899
    IGN:
    Alzy
    Percent stats are always calculated using base stats. Flat crit rate will not be decreased. Crit rate gained from % stats will not be decreased. These knuckles take away 25 crit rate without any crit stat. If you have crit stat, this amount is increased because crit stat adds to base crit rate.
     
  8. Ari999

    Ari999 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2018
    Messages:
    860
    Likes Received:
    206
    IGN:
    Arifool
    Use gloves of aiming or sticky dumplings

    Welcome to the world of Halbs XD
    Except without the high crit

    Oh and gespenst 2 gives acc as well
     
  9. Lenwok

    Lenwok Elite Member Elite Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2017
    Messages:
    1,170
    Likes Received:
    509
    IGN:
    Lenwok
    Not sure if I fully understand this (are you suggesting 2nd stat CRIT might still be viable?). Could you provide a simple example breakdown to clarify? Thanks~
     
  10. Ari999

    Ari999 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2018
    Messages:
    860
    Likes Received:
    206
    IGN:
    Arifool
    Basically personal crit stat (your base 25 and personal stat as well) is null thanks to crit rate -100%
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  11. Lenwok

    Lenwok Elite Member Elite Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2017
    Messages:
    1,170
    Likes Received:
    509
    IGN:
    Lenwok
    Ok, this was already originally noted, but thanks!
     
  12. Alzarith

    Alzarith Elite Member Elite Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2015
    Messages:
    1,276
    Likes Received:
    1,899
    IGN:
    Alzy
    CRIT stat modifies your base crit rate, and since -100% crit rate (being a percentage stat) IS a percent, it is calculated using your base crit rate.

    It seemed like everyone was confused still even on later pages
     
  13. ugliest

    ugliest Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2017
    Messages:
    925
    Likes Received:
    353
    IGN:
    ugliest
    Assumign you max dex. You'll get a whopping 80 attack and 175 hit or so.

    175 vit = about 10k hp

    or you can get 35 more CD. w str

    To me, Agi Str or Agi Vit is the best trade off if you're using the tonfas.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  14. Draco57

    Draco57 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2015
    Messages:
    152
    Likes Received:
    88
    IGN:
    Draco57
    What are the stats of the Master Tonfa?
     
  15. Xerizo

    Xerizo Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2017
    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    8
    IGN:
    Xerizo
    Base ATK 320
    ATK 6%
    Critical Rate -100 %
    Critical Damage +24
    Base Stability 70%
    Additional Meele 100%

    Its already on coryn club actually
     
  16. bloodytolits

    bloodytolits Hiatus. Playing Ragnarok M Elite Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    1,569
    Likes Received:
    506
    Crit +16% on armor would lower it to -84% so you'd still gain 4 crit from base.

    Base - 4
    MegiChamp - 15
    Vulcan Shield - 12
    FC16 Armor - 16
    Shaved Ice(Gesp II) - 30
    Machina Ring(Bexiz & Crit 4) - 9
    Crit UP skill - 5

    =91(You can get it to 100 if you add 194 on your Crit stat LoL)

    Still not enough. I'd just ditch Megi, Bexiz, Crit 4 and just use Meikyou instead.
     
  17. Ari999

    Ari999 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2018
    Messages:
    860
    Likes Received:
    206
    IGN:
    Arifool
    There's still other skills and auto that rely on crit with this build
    Cant meikyo every attack
     
  18. Lenwok

    Lenwok Elite Member Elite Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2017
    Messages:
    1,170
    Likes Received:
    509
    IGN:
    Lenwok
    In the short term, I'm definitely using Meikyo. Long combo Meikyo-Chariot. Chance it (~70%) with Impact-Rush short combo.
    Lvl 75, Tonfa +B ns, impact rush (on crit) did 240k on Big Mask. Not bad at all~
     
  19. TokiXKiru

    TokiXKiru Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2015
    Messages:
    571
    Likes Received:
    1,280
    IGN:
    CryWolf
    Just use all if you have
     
  20. TokiXKiru

    TokiXKiru Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2015
    Messages:
    571
    Likes Received:
    1,280
    IGN:
    CryWolf
    Use meikyo lvl 10 is still best though. Megiston is 10mil on board /:
     
    • Sad Sad x 1

Share This Page