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Mercenary build?

Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by BeefKZ, Jun 22, 2017.

  1. BeefKZ

    BeefKZ Member

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    Just an idea. If someone already made a thread about this please link it.
    So how do you create the perfect merc? I want to know. I only have a slight idea, like it having play dead lv10 and first aid lv10 along with its combat masteries. Since mercs can't use skills the build will have minimal use for that. Only passive will apply, correct? Also does power wave work for mercs even if they use a sword?
    In other words, how do you make a tanky auto attack build that can revive you and them self very fast?
     
  2. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Any full vit char with:-
    Folium staff drop minotaur
    Albero shield or dark captain shield
    Vit12 vit7% hp7% minotaur
    Yummy dango candela
    Toughness bangle minotaur

    If you dont have yummy dango (its an event add gear) you can go for adel cape golden skeleton.

    Very cheap and efficient tank merc prorater with 40-50k hp and 900-1k aspd for fast auto attack and long range staff can allow it to avoid short aoes decent aggro if the boss doesnt have high dodge and if you dont spam much.

    Play dead and first aid are optional. Depends on what your needs are for me mercs better if play dead as they get hit by fractionals if you want them to heal you instead then go for first aid.

    For me mercs are supposed to prorate only I dont want them to hold aggro or do high dps as they are nowhere as good for it as a pure dps or a pure tank thats why I focus on them getting 1k aspd and as high as possible hp.

    Power wave does not work for any merc sadly, staff and md get power wave auto attack regardless if they have the skill or not.
     
  3. Cella [Yurie ♥]

    Cella [Yurie ♥] Elite Member Elite Member

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    Power waves does effect with Staff aya
    For prove : try my new merc ^^
    10m auto attack! High hp, will have 4k aspd soon and super high dodge rate (they do dodge afterall, u can test it)
     
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  4. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Staff merc gets power wave even if it doesnt have the skill .-. Read my post again.
    Register your merc I wanna test if it dodge corroded capt.
     
  5. Cella [Yurie ♥]

    Cella [Yurie ♥] Elite Member Elite Member

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    Really!!?? Without skill staff merc got 10m power waves!?

    Well aya, my merc is using unstated staff... will add agi7% agi+13 later aspd+13% ._.)/
    Around 30 agi more ._.)/
    When Ncs price lower ><)/
     
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    Wait so does that mean a full agi dual wield can evade tank while having decent damage?
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Cant @Alzarith already proved with a 1400flee char dodge didnt proc on aoes from bosses after scrader at all.
     
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    But with power wave it could GIVEN THE MERC DOESN'T WALK IN FRONT OF THE AOE ON PURPOSE AGAIN!
     
  9. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Ugh....
    Power wave does NOT work for merc.
    Staff gets long range auto attack even if the merc doesnt have the power wave skill.
    Rest every other weapon like knux or 1h if you have the skill it wont work it will still go near the boss to auto attack and wont kite properly either which results in them dying.
     
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    Sorry if this is a bit of a necro post, but I was wondering about DEF and Resistances on a merc... Would the res bonuses on say Jiangshi Hat work? Thanks
     
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    Yeah, they both work like they would on an actual player.

    Just a bit of a necro-post myself because I can: knuckles with aggrevate and strong chase attack are pretty good for tank mercs.
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Resistance/def stats do not work on mercs they get very high resistance by default if they choose defender.
    Critical will not work for mercs either so best mercs are full dex archer.
    Skills like the guard break from strong chase attack and power wave does not work either.

    The best possible tank/attacker merc is a full dex bow/bowgun user with 1100ASPD. (15-20k HP if defender)
    Equips stats should focus on dex hp and vit(flat)
     
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    Hi Mayam,
    Thanks for the detailed clarifications! Would you also happen to know whether aggro+ & evade works on mercs? (I don't think i've ever seen the evade animation happen on my merc...)
    You have also given me an excellent idea to switch the 1H out of my full dex merc for a bg... And yes, I've always set my defender merc with ASPD and HP as priority stats. xD
    Cheers.
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Evasion, guard and guard power does not work with mercs either.
    The only stats that work are hp,atk,matk,def,mdef,hit,flee and aspd. Cspd is useless as well for now till they can use skills.
    Not sure about aggro as it is difficult to test but I think it should work.
     
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    Nuuu~!
    2nd Anniversary BG had +500 ASPD.
    Too late now... T__T
     
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    Try using a morning star staff, oddly enuf it generate decent aggro and proration even if it does hit on negatives(it does not heal the target mind you). I have a bgtank that i use as a tank merc when i came across this. Oddly enuf. The one setup that work on ms is md. But due to low aggro generation i need to wear -aggro on my active char so it wont take aggro away from my pet or my merc.

    I dunno if its a bug but, most weapon paired with a sheild tend to stay putt and do aa when they hit 800+aspd which is bad for merc survival if they get hammered every time you choose a target. Best one i came up with is md full aggro set for my merc, it still do get hit by aoe and sometimes i get blasted by rogue aoe but it have a higher chance of survival than any setup i have. Well that's just me tho.
     
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    Thanks, ill check the morning star out. BG is working out quite well on my main as a merc because it is full dex. Dmg wasnt half bad while holding all the aggro. =)
     
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    About staying put I always thought it only occured when the merc had aggro coz when it doesnt have aggro it keeps moving all over the place.
    Will have to check if its cause of shield.
     
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    Staff+sheild stay put even at 100aspd. On my md max i have is 500 aspd and it still have mobility. Other setup i have shoot over 800 aspd and it start to stay put doing aa.
     
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    My usual scenario on ms hunt is:
    main char initiates first hit.
    Pet and merc gang up on target to gain aggro.
    If pet do skill damage it gain aggro. If it just do aa, the merc gains aggro after 2-3 merc aa.
    After 4th pet aa pet gains aggro, faster if the pet does skill damage.

    Aggro generation is both generated by aspd and aggro gears combined on merc.

    Aggro can be taken from merc if you have high cspd dishing out long list of combos or the aspd of merc must at least 500 more than your cspd for aggro recovery in case you dished out sum thing big. Well, this is just an observation on my point of view.
     

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