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MMH vs Nisel farm vs NC (New)

Discussion in 'Toram Online Quest Discussions' started by Mr.Hermit, Jul 14, 2016.

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MMH vs Nisel

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  1. Mr.Hermit

    Mr.Hermit Active Member

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    Was out of town and was welcomed back by
    "S>NC"
    "S>NC"
    "S>NC"
    Yea wth are they? After some research i finally managed to get hold of em. Updated thread.
    Sry if took long, was out of town without any Wi-Fi for a week.

    WARNING:
    Contains MATH!
    Remember:
    Set: Set of four stacks
    Round: A complete run ending with full bag of required item
    At 90s, exp for next level is in millions

    Lets look up to MMH 1st

    Experience collected

    1. MMH:


    According to my calculations, average time to complete 1 stack with sword marionettes inside palace is 20 min
    Stacks in 1 hour = 3

    Quests per stack = 99/40 = 2.475 quests
    EXP per quest = 86k
    Quests in 3 stacks = 2.475 x 3 = 7.425 (Round down to 7)
    EXP in (1 hour/3 stacks/7 quests) = 86k x 7 = 602k exp

    2. Nisel farm:

    According to my calculations, a round is completed in 45-50 min if its an active all storm with your luck mage. If w include the turn in time, its 10-15min so when we add, 1 round ends in an hour. (makes easy to compare 1 hour with MMH)
    At average, you get 12 stks B nuts and 18 stks Nisel woods (with a 30 slot free bag)
    Bnuts:
    No. of quests per stack = 30/12 = 2.5 quests (12 here is no. required for quest not stacks)

    Experience from 1 quest = 18.9k
    Quests completed in 12 stacks = 2.5 x 12 = 30 quests
    EXP in (1 hour/12 stacks/30 quests) = 18.9k x 30 = 567k exp (Yes plz do check your calculators :))

    N woods:
    No. of quests per stack = 99/30 = 3.3 quests
    Experience from 1 quest = 10k
    Quests in 18 stacks = 18 x 3.3 = 59.4 (Round down to 59)
    Exp in (1 hour/18 stacks/59 quests) = 10k x 59 = 590k

    Total exp = 590k + 567k = 1,166,000 exp! (You got your calculator for that ;))

    NC:
    1 stack takes 15 mins
    In 1 hour u get 5 stks
    1 stk = 1 quest
    1 quest = 300k exp
    5 stk = 5 x 300k
    = 1.5m / 1,500,000 exp!!!!!
    Out matches Nisel!!!

    Selling:
    MMH:
    In 1 hour you get 3 MMH stacks
    considering price = 70k/4stk, 1 stack = 70k/4 = 17.5k
    3 stacks = 17.5k x 3 = 52.5k spinas (In 1 hour/3 stacks)
    So thats 52.5k spinas per hour + add 10 mins for selling

    Nisel farm:
    1. Nuts + woods:
    Nuts price 3k/stk Woods price 5k/4stk or 1.25k/stk
    12 stk nuts 18 stk woods
    Price= 3k x 12 = 36k 1.25k x 18 = 22.5k
    Total = 36k + 22.5k = 58.5k spinas
    So you earn 58.5k spinas in 45 mins in this farm + add 10 mins for selling

    2. Nuts only:
    In an hour you can get about 15 stacks of pure nuts.
    Price = 3k x 15 = 45k spinas
    So you earn 45k spinas in an hour of Nuts only farm + add 10 mins for selling

    NC:
    Normal price these days = 80k/4stk
    (NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY CHANGE DUE TO THIS POST)
    1 Hour = 5stk
    5stk = 80k spinas!!! + 20k for 5th
    Outrules Nisel again!!!!

    Buying:
    * refference money = 70k
    MMH:
    Price = 70k/4stk
    from above, 4 stk give 2.475 x 4 = 9.9 quests (round down to 9)
    9 quests = 86k x 9 = 774k exp (About 70% of a level)
    + less time to turn in

    B nuts:
    Price = 3k/stk
    23 stks = 23 x 3k = 69k spinas
    23 stks give 2.5 x 23 = 57.5 quests (round down to 57)
    57 quests = 18.9k x 57 = 1,077,300 exp (Almost complete 1 lvl up)
    + 10 mins for turn in (worth it)

    N woods:
    Price = 5k/4stk
    1 set = 5k
    14 sets price = 14 x 5 = 70k
    stacks in 14 sets = 14 x 4 =56 stacks
    No. of quests = 3.3 x 56 = 184.8 (round down to 184)
    184 quests = 10k x 184 = 1,840,000 exp (Almost 2 levels at 90s)
    + 30 mins to turn in (Ik lol)

    NC:
    (Reference money 80k)
    4 stks at 80k
    4 stks = 300k x 3
    = 1.2m exp
    Yea clearly outmatched by Nisel but nisel farm is dying and so are N woods/ B nut sellers i doubt they will be farmed for money again. So NC wins here again!!

    Finally asobimo releases quests which r worth while. Lefina excited as ever XD.
    PS: plz dont mind typos my new device got a wide screen.

    Thanks for taking your time :)
     
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    Haha Maths is least favourite of majority these days
    About Hib think I'll try that myself soon
     
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    Can I get more money
     
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    B.nuts is the best till lvl90
    And it's the best for fast spina
    If u want to lvlup fast lvl90-100
    Don't do ur new update main quest
    Just do b.nut or sell b.nut to buy mmh for fastest way
    Then when u reach lvl90 do all ur new main quest to gain thousands of exp
    To lvlup fast from 90-100 plus do mmh
    Take note (WITHOUT B.NUT LVLING UP WILL BE SLOWER LIKE A HELL)
     
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    hmmmmm......Can you include mint gummy and huge iron ball too???
     
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    I'm lvl 56 archer can u help me lvl both character the other one is lvl 50 archer can u help me get to lvl 90 or 100 if I do how much will that be
     
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    Yeah ^^
    Btw INFO>>> FAST WAY SPINA(FINE SAND) 17stk=1million FAST FARM 60k=1stk
    So if u wanna buy mmh or IRON BALL well fine sand might help a lot for u
    FINE SAND>>reppier recepie/fast way and easy way to lvlup BS prof.
    Easy than BELTS ^^
     
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    Well I'll need more money so cant
     
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    I wish it were free
     
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    Ooooohhh Thanks!!! Fine sand is from.....mole right? (any easier mob?)
     
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    It is free if you farm for it.
    And you get it if you farm for it.
    Truth spoken, nisel is the best. MMH leaves ppl in poverty.
     
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    Selling and buying consumes about 30 mins of your precious time. Also as I explained before, you get more exp from n woods and b nuts compared to mmh spending same amount of spinas for each
    Also about your method, it's better to go other way around to farm mmh and sell to buy n woods for double exp and 15 more turn in minutes
     
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    Gummies are completely out of the race because of drop rates and rough terrain. There were farmed for medicine mats. There are other sources for that.
    About Hib I'll try to add them as soon as I can
     
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    Yeah I said nisel is fast from lvl1-90 lol
    I just said if u want fast lvlup from 90-100 do mmh
    Together with main quest
    And boooom
     
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    So r u charging r no because I will farm
     
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    Considering the exp gained over time, nisel gives more than mmh. Its the same problem you got i stated in the end lol
     
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    And
    back read please
    I just said
    Take note (WITHOUT B.NUTS LVLING UP WILL BE SLOW LIKE A HELL)
     
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    Ya ok maybe I was confused
     
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    Ok thxs
     
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