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Oh well... They breaked hasso happa...

Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by Unetéro Kenora, Jan 31, 2018.

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Do you think tey need to adjust this ridiculous Nerf?

Poll closed Mar 2, 2018.
  1. Yes, they need.

    29 vote(s)
    43.9%
  2. No.

    24 vote(s)
    36.4%
  3. Whatever, I dont use it '-'

    7 vote(s)
    10.6%
  4. Break one more leg!

    6 vote(s)
    9.1%
  1. Unetéro Kenora

    Unetéro Kenora Well-Known Member

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    Yep, this is a post talking about the ridiculous nerf that asobimo did in momonofu class, specifically on hasso happa skill.

    Hasso hapa have a 5mp cost, just hit the enemy at flat areas, and now is hard to deal more than 100k with this skill (i am lvl80 and need to use hasso theee times or more to kill a damn giant boar lvl50..."""Equilibrated and fair"""...

    Samurai need to take risk with skills, have high mp cost, and dont need to say that samurai is paper (boss hit you= dead), you need to know how to play, need timming, a 5mp skill need to have high damage, its fair, no sense for the class being breaked like this.
    And I think I dont need to say that even archers are going to be nerfed again!
    Halberd too...

    Well, samurai is a class that is very fair to be strong, hasso skill 5mp cust have less than 100k dmg, this is not equilibrated, this is a ridiculous nerf.
    Hope asobimo don't make toram be a extremely hard game like they did with another games...
    Asobimo stay creating hard bosses and nerfing classes.
    book of oblivion? Naahhh

    Oh, just saying that, if you think this nerf is fair or even need more nerfs just because you hate the class for being strong (some people think like that, ins't a joke), well... Wtf?

    Thx for read it!
     
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  2. Azin.

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    stop ranting theres no nerfed yet..
    5mp is pretty good with a skill that deals 3 times and 100% no graze
    from 1500-1200 300 base atk nerf aint that much tbh
    dont hate me im a samurai user too lol
    one of the reason why katana class are op right now is godspeed (25% unsheathe) thats why they only nerfed hasso cuz the multiplier is a mistake.. they equal it to zanteis multiplier when parried thats why its getting a nerf cuz of asobimos mistake
     
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  3. Komibii

    Komibii [TITLE] Elite Member

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    1. Hasso can hit much harder than that, it can even do more damage than zantei which can do 700k. The damage nerf that it's getting isn't even that bad, though the removal of perfect aim might be a bit excessive.

    2. Archers were never nerfed (unless you consider the 100% critical thing a long time ago, but that was a bug), but since the dps of bows is significantly higher than bowguns, snipe is being nerfed. Bows were initially intended for utility & semi-dps, whereas bowguns were made for full dps with low utility, so the nerf makes sense because it would allow bowguns to live up to their purpose.

    3. Halberds aren't being nerfed, they're being buffed.

    4. Other than these nerfs and buffs, most of the changes that are being made are buffs. Classes like brawlers are getting a huge overall buff, and the blade skills will be able to use rampage effectively.

    In other words, the upcoming update is mostly justified.
     
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  4. RyeUshio

    RyeUshio The Blue Bull Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    How are you spamming a 500mp skill, three times or more on giant boar? How many mp does your level 80 have? Learn to prorate, don't just spam. No nerf just yet. One hasso is enough to kill that boar. Your rant came in too early. ^_^
     
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    Bedsheet Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Elite Member

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    1500 to 1200 is still good imo..
     
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    IMG_1089.jpg Imagine a 700k hp boss. No need nerf???
    And thats a full crit gear, how about using a meikyo+cdmg gears?
     
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    Nerf not applied LUL.
    Hitting 100k on boar LUL.
    Need to know how to play? LUL
    Need to take risk? LUL (You do but not much. It's calculated and easily some of the most friendly risk I've come across in predictive iframe skills.)
    There are going to be 10 skill tree resets per character you own. Tf is wrong with you. LUL
    So passionate for the wrong reasons. LUL

    And for some reason I think this last bit was directed at me. I hope not, since the arguement you're making would be as incorrect as most of your post. LUL
     
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  8. Unetéro Kenora

    Unetéro Kenora Well-Known Member

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    First, i know how to prorate, im not a beginner.
    Second, my samurai lvl80 haves 7mp so so, I use 1mp combo with proration and i need to use it three times to kill a simple giant boar lvl50!
    Im just thinking.. If this isn't a nerf, and they will nerf Again... Well, damn.
     
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    Unetéro Kenora Well-Known Member

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    This is a broken damage, im saying its ridiculous dealing just 60-70k dmg on a lvl50 mimi boss when i am lvl80, understand it? They adjusted, but breaked one arm of the samurai.
     
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    Bedsheet Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Elite Member

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    What combo is it specifically
     
  11. Unetéro Kenora

    Unetéro Kenora Well-Known Member

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    Yes, need to know how to use.
    Yes, im killing gb for test.
    And something happened with the damage, if it isnt a nerf i don't know what more it can be...
    I don't even know you, lol guy, and yes, the damage lowered a lot.
     
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    You just said this damge is broken so...maybe its ur combo?o_O
     
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    How many times did you prorate before you used hasso on the giant boar? Also, did you prorate inbetween your combos?
     
  14. RyeUshio

    RyeUshio The Blue Bull Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    The moment impact hits gb is enough magic proration to boost your smited hasso damage. We're all puzzled here on how you did such feat of hassoing(oh yeah it's a verb now) gb 3x or more before killing it. ^_^
     
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    Unetéro Kenora Well-Known Member

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    (I said the damage in the photo)
    My combo its okay, i prorate like 5-10 times (withouth merc), and still needing to use my hasso combo 3× or more, before this att i can just kill giant boar with one hasso.
    I have full crit equips, and yeah, something happened to the damage, and dealling just 70k to a lvl52 mini boss when you are lvl80 is minimally wrong.

    Edit: lol, doubled ur mensage.
     
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    Unetéro Kenora Well-Known Member

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    My friend have a lvl95 samurai, he have more powerfull equips than me, and he need to use combo hasso 3 times too, the problem is just the dmg reduction.
     
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    Bedsheet Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Elite Member

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    Im asking what skills you use

    Example: impact > snipe (smite) > moeba shot (cons)
     
  18. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    The damage reduction isnt big 1500 to 1200 means 20% damage reduction. The devs themselves said it was never intended to be 1500 it was always supposed to be 1200 so no point in complaining about that.

    I personally did not like that they removed evasion from the perfect aim ability. That was really uncalled for, well you can say I never liked the fact that magic could be able to bypass evasion but not physical skills so for me this really hurts hasso more than the damage down.
     
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    Stop lmao!! Samurai Class isnt nerfed yet. Infact The skillbalance adjustment hasnt been done yet. It was postponed during the last maintenance and now it will be done in future maintainance. So, the Samurai skills are still the same as they were when it was released. If u are experiencing something awkward then there's something wrong with ur build or combo. And one more thing, when they do the actual nerfs they will provide everyone with free skill reset/ learn. So, dont be mad rn just wait patiently for the update.
     
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    It's probably a 90% hasso combo or something lol
     

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