open forum for Magic Swordsman's healthy progress :P

i just saw it now.
looks awesome, but i didn't make any those weapons yet.
analysis in progress...

Edit:

1h sword:
short range damage and ampr is definitely sword style
i heard that addional magic 100% does extra damage equal to 100% matk, so it is almost like double damage then
atk up by INT and down by STR - if the rates are equal and we have a STR INT build, then it wouldn't change much except that non-magic swordsmen get weaker

2h sword:
physical pierce and HP, definitely 2h style
add magic 125%, so it's stronger than 1h as usual
atk up by INT and down by DEX - probably STR will be higher than DEX so it should give an increase in atk if INT was used to raise mdef

bow:
similar to 2h sword
add magic is only 75% but bows have the longest range, so they can attack safely

bowgun:
stats look like Sword of Sin, so definitely for magic gunners
add magic only 75% like bow
atk up by INT and down by DEX - same as 1h sword

staff:
looks like it was made brawler mages
atk down by STR and no up, that contradicts the first impression
but add magic is 150% so that should make up for it.
and non-brawler mages can at least enjoy the add magic and the barrier effect, so this one is useful to all staff builds =(^.^)=

MD:
great magic boost
add magic 150% - now MDs get as strong as Staffs
atk down by AGI and no up, but we still get dodge and speed from AGI so it's acceptable
and the melee barrier is also nice

Knuckle:
critical rate and damage, that's unusual but welcome
add magic 100% - Knuckle have the same matk growth as Staff and MD so this should be just as powerful as the 2h Sword
atk up by INT and down by DEX - same as 2h Sword

Halberd:
another "Shield" type halberd
add magic 125% - not as good as it looks like since Halberd has the lowest matk growth
atk up by INT and down by AGI - if INT is used for magic defense, which makes sense for heavy armor, then this shouldnt change much, but Halberds with other stats would get weakened

the conclusion:

INT is not only for magic attack for hybrid classes but also for magic defense for armored builds, and those weapons reward us for that =(^.^)=

 

I checked out the NPC crafts earlier today. they are not viable. i din go too deep in calculations, but each point of int only gives abt 0.9 atk. it's not worth it. plus we lose element damage (25%) AND bonus to the spells (i.e storm)

Edit: i made a BG to see how much atk it gives by int

 

why would you loose it?

 

the npc craft is water element, there is no way to alter it based on the boss. and if it's not staff, we lose 33% of storm damage

 

i still don't get it...
water element is on the weapon, so you get water element.
there is one for each weapon type, including staff.
why would a staff magician switch to something else?

 

I assumed the discussion was on the viability of new equipment for hybrid magician builds
- they are all water element and the only boss this will be useful for is Vlog (not really practical hence i say u lose element: when u try to use they to fight other bosses)
- The ice staff brings nothing new to the table for hybrids, using it is not very different from using any other staff
- the only unique stats this time are Atk Up (Stat) and Atk Down (stat). they aren't worth using the weapons and being constrained by the points i highlighted
- why wouldn't a hybrid magician switch to something else besides staff? :3

 

1) Atk up int is only 1 atk per int. No weapon scales that low, excluding Knucks which has 1atk per Dex (fair trade though)

2) Magic Skills have more damage using a staff or MD, just like how Martial skills have high Damage and Proc Rate using knucks

I find Magic Swords man interesting but weak as a build currently. Maybe at the 200 level cap

 

If only we make a dex-int swordsman, mdef and cspd sword user

 

So does dex give 3.1 atk if int gives 0.9 is there a difference in any other stat?
Also is it +1 atk for every weapon.

 

thats what im thinking e-e u got me there

 

So for 1h sword it's 1int = 1atk?
Boo

 

You dont know how strong that is XD since youll gain atk in int, you can make a hybrid swordsmen now... You will have mdef and matk plus atk so 3 stat growth is considered so combine with dex spell knights will rise if someone knows how to build them correctly ^^

 

Imo Dex-int build with the new 1h will make ur magic swordsman dreams come true. I get it that u get cdmg from str, but that's really not needed that much since matk doesn't crit.

 

I agree!!!!

 

int dex stats will be great

 

Try bid for Priest skill for it has physical skill that is based on both atk and matk (perfect for magic sword..?)
and bless based on magic, gloria gives 300% def/mdef boost
holy light has unique stats which makes u able to ignore part of def when u r attacking

my choice is javeline, lance, and impact lol

 

the priest attacks don't get a bonus for sword or MD, so compared to magic skills with MD bonus, they are medicore...
Holy Fist is not stronger than Astute (at least for 1h swords)

Bless and Gloria are good alternatives to War Cry =(^.^)=