People are uninterested with dark energy/ magic blade

Very few builds made on these two skills. What seems to be the problem? Similar to other main trees?

 

Its inefficient. Other skill trees are cheap to buy and can do a better job (mostly) than these skilltrees. Also nothing special that may pursuade players to buy the expensive books, to do a test. If it was free or atleast as cheap as the other skill trees player might incorporate it to their own build more since more tests can be done.

 

So people are reluctant to test it out mainly because spina issue..... until someone make a meta out of it. And the price shall rise hahahha

 

Somw rich players already tested it out and it still not as amazing as it name's make it sound like.
Only 1 or 2 skills are useful per tree so meh for me.
But once source of the book stops being available then it'll be higher in prices (as all other event limited items in game)

 

Bloody bite is pretty good addition to your build, but that's it. Regretless... maybe if we reach higher level cap, people will consider it after all other useful skills are taken. Its not practical outside of short boss battles

 

Lol i enjoyed watching our profile pic scream at each other

 

I saw quite some people use Regretless in their builds.
Me? Idk I just sold all the books I had, not interested in using and I have no more char slots.

My honest opinion on these skills:
They're not that good. Sure, they look cool, but for me, their utilities aren't useful. The only good skills from Magic Blade are Resonance and Enchant Sword (is that the correct name?). Even so, Enchant Sword is only useful for 2hs because it's much stronger and have 100% crit with 2hs. The skill is also unsheathe, but most sword skills aren't. Well, at least it changes elements to suit the enemy you're fighting, but that's it.
Regretless is probably the only good skill from Dark Energy. But it surely has disadvantages. If you don't have a good/organized pt, you can't fully utilize this skill, because when you die during Regretless, you can't use droplets/first aid/struggle.
Everyone will have their own opinions, these are just mine, and why I don't use them.

 

No. It is not a spina issue. The skill trees are (mostly) garbage. There are (maybe) 5 skills that are useful in both the trees put together. These are Resonance, Enchanted Blade, Ether Flare, Regretless, and Sacrifice. Every single other skill is very, very bad. I wish that I was joking but I am not.

Magic blade skills were released as a way to make magic crit. That was supposed to be the main focus of the tree, but Asobimo completely destroyed any kind of potential magic critical had by halving crit rate and crit damage of magic skills. This makes every magic blade skill other enchanted sword and resonance (which do not rely on nor need magic atk) bad in comparison, unless you are planning to use a magic device as a subweapon. Even then, the skills are lackluster and not worth using compared to many other skill trees.

Dark energy is bad, as well. It relies upon stupid amounts of health to do damage (primarily). The only way to get any kind of decent damage from dark energy alone is to give up dps for health, and to get the kind of health needed to hit hard, you must give up resist and other useful stats that you cannot go without. Bloody bite is okay for solo players or tanks, but it does trash damage, and can only heal 1650 health right now, AND it eats up one tick of physical proration, AND has a cast animation. Why do that, when perfect defense exists? Heal, parry damage completely, and not affect prorate at all, AND generate a large pool of Aggro, all at the same time. Regretless is decent at best, it will be more useful once we don't die in the ranking screen anymore. Demon claw is very "Meh" since it requires you to be at extremely low health to do the most damage (10% or less remaining) and does lackluster damage even then, PLUS it will split up its damage between targets evenly, which makes it even worse in multiple target scenarios.

These skill trees were a let down and overhyped. They will hopefully be changed but based upon Asobimo's past with other skill trees *cough* Hunter...they might remain in the sad state they are in now

 

Considering that they didn't do anything much with hunter tree, so I guess I can say RIP to these 2 skills too.

Btw thanks for the elaborate explanation dude

 

I'm really annoyed at Asobimo for completely ruining the potential of these skill trees I could rant forever thank you for reading it lmao

 

Reading alzy rant is always fun

 

He took my place as the forum's ranter.
*sniff*
In so proud.

 

well, the sub skills didn't get as much rebalance updates as the main skills, so there is still hope for buffs.
maybe when they are done with the 4th tier main skills.

 

Toss them in along with dagger skills with the exception in that dagger is entirely useless :/

 

Possibly a necro-post (yay!) but i want to chip in
Dark Energy, i've not really explored (even though i've stocked quite a lot of skill books from Haunted House grinding) but Magic Blade tree is great for making a few builds very viable now.
Historically subbing MD gives you a -15% reduction in atk, and the mastery skill brings this very nicely down to 5% only. With this, your 1h/knux now has access to faster MP Charge, decently strong Power Wave and most importantly Maximize, for easy full regen of MP. Throw in lvl 1 Resonance for another 6sp and you have an instant way of recovering half of your MP inside of battle too.
Been having massive success farming bosses repeatedly (i.e. 3 Ifrid xtals over 4 days!!!), driving full break, bursting down bosses with fast costly combos, and yet still enjoying very minimal downtime in between each run.

 

Imo the ampr the sword skills provide is more than enough to allow you to go into battle with 0 mp and end with max mp.

In that case, it would still be overall not as useful if at all to 1h.

 

On the topic of MP recovery for 1h sword, using the berserk rampage combo would solve that far more than using magic blade which also relies on you carrying MD of different elements to maximize the effects. The points used for magic device sub could be put into skills which offer more survival like shield.

This is even more unsuitable for knuckle because some of the skills there just won't work without sword and knuckle already has stupid high MP recovery besides AMPR in the form of shell break.

 

Wow, quick to shoot this down huh. Well I'm not saying the 1h ampr buff options are not equally valid, I'm saying the magic blade unlocks another form of mp recovery. Everyone is yelling about how boring this game is, where's the spirit to explore different types of build? I'm even trialling WCoS (on a non-hb char) as another form of post battle mp recovery now too - but that's more hassle than maximize for sure...

Also
1 - Yes maybe its easy to refill your mp with buff skills and auto attacks... but how about clearing a boss with NO AUTOs and NO BUFFING at all??? I just let my pet+mercs do all the prorating instead. Plus Rampage/Berserk, although great, has a noticeable impact on defense.
2 - Actually Shell Break isn't a great form of MP recovery because it relies on chance and contributes to physical proration. MD sub is actually more ideal for knux as they don't have amazing ampr buff options. And even more so with a powerful set of knux

 

The only viable way to recover mp via autos is using decoy change my mind