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Discussion in 'Toram Online Player Feedback / Review' started by xSacramenT, Feb 7, 2018.

  1. J.D.X.

    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    I don't care about competing.
    I never cared about being ranked nor doing more dmg.
    All I care about in pt, is being decent and not sucking...
    I'm perfectly OK with second and third place.
     
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  2. WindSlash

    WindSlash Guardian Angel of Picos Elite Member

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    I like the animated gif of a man beating a soon to be reanimated corpse of a horse. :3

    PvP on this game = RMT Bait. :V The game is going to have a Pay-To-Win Culture, especially looking at how star gem skills can be bought in the CB. This would in turn, make more demand for spina. More Demand for Spina = more demand for Spina farmers = more botters = increased server load = more connection issues = etc. etc. etc. I could go on, but the gist of it is that an influx of interest for and implementation of PvP would basically eventually collapse Toram as a game community.
     
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    ingame778 Well-Known Member

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    An example from another *new* game that i never played (is this allowed?)

    Black desert online

    Endgame is pvp. Veterans dominates newbs. Newbs need money, best way is surprise surprise: FISHING (toram forum title: 'the minigame that save you')

    Soo increase money demand blah blah, more people 'adapting' to harsh times, then crashing the whole game together

    Npc limited spina like Skyrim when? (Afaik skyrim may be too harsh, perhaps npc limited spina 100k per day?)
     
  4. J.D.X.

    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    I don't get it...
     
  5. J.D.X.

    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    The gif means beating a dead horse.: v
    ”Flogging a dead horse (alternatively beating a dead horse, or beating a dead dog in some parts of the Anglophone world) is an idiom that means to continue a particular endeavour is a waste of time as the outcome is already decided."
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    Nekotori Well-Known Member

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    Welp, I was just playing that a few moments ago, but i wasn't sure about the endgame besides world boss. Now I'm not sure if I want to keep playing
     
  7. Alycia

    Alycia What did I miss? Elite Member

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    Valid point, but you gotta remember: Toram's classes aren't balanced for pvp to begin with. Case closed.
     
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    Alycia What did I miss? Elite Member

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    The endgame is less traditional PvP and more PvP raid. You fight in guild wars essentially.
     
  9. Tieguai

    Tieguai Well-Known Member

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    The spina in demand point is a valid argument. The question is, how much of an impact would PvP have on that? We don't even have PvP right now and my goal is still to have full 2s gear, don't know about you guys :D. There are means to make spina besides paying, so those determined enough may pursue them.

    Another option would be to do hat ty can only battle somebody in your level range. But if players can already only battle on a specific map through requests that shouldn't he a problem to begin with.

    Aaaand about the competitiveness of humans, denying that would mean denying basic biological principles that envelop and determine us and all organic lifeforms, so, yeah. XD

    Well the best counterargument - or only lmao - is the one provided by Windslash.
     
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    Aaaaand everyone would be sniping again..... Impact snipe from afar won't make a good scene to a melee opponent, no? Unless you could have a high enough dodge/eva/hp more than 200k, sniping is the way to rule PK in Toram.
     
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    You could of course add penalties, you would have to revamp the DMG system for pvp, for example damage*1/x at the very end. In another mmorpg I once played it was similar, for PvP they had a damage*0,5 multiplier.

    Also, crossing the distance is not so difficult, especially as we now have shukuchi :p If the developers really took the time to implement a well-thought PvP system, this wouldn't pose much of a problem for Toram besides the possibility of WindSlashs' argument.
     
  12. Alycia

    Alycia What did I miss? Elite Member

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    That, or I casually use Phantom to literally tank your Snipe because invincibility.
    DW is gonna be so broken in PvP with Snipers xD
     
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    Tieguai Well-Known Member

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    Well, of course you would need to adjust some skills. I'm just arguing that it is possible if they really wanted to implement it :p
     
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    you believe wrong as all humans you ever had known are that way mentally sick, but in fact, this is a disease, this is not natural

    as proof, see how earth will soon not survive to this
     
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    Tieguai Well-Known Member

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    hhhh okay, how do you explain evolutionary theory then?

    Also, according to you, all organisms that have ever, do and will exist in the future have a mental illness? Even though some of them cannot even be described as being sentient or conscient, thus not possibly being able to have a mental illness?

    Bacteria for example?

    Perhaps you should read evolutionary theory, it is pretty enlightening :p

    Edit: Also, earth will survive this. It may take millions of years and humans might destroy themselves, but the earth's ecosystem will recover over periods of time that may seem long to us but are nothing in face of the universe's infinity.

    Edit: Sorry if I sound rude or arrogant, but I cannot stand the denial of evolutionary theory, of which competitiveness is the most important principle.

    Concerning your thoughts, I think the central problem is humanity's unawareness or misconception regarding the collectiveness of every single action taken by a human. Everybody thinks "Throwing trash on the street this one time doesn't change anything" or "me becoming a vegetarian doesn't have an impact" (meat production is the main cause for climate change) - and I am no exception. But I am in the process of changing these thought patterns for myself or at least more aware or planning to change them. And also, this is no illness, its only natural. Humans were designed to only care for the things in psychological vicinity, so why care for an event (extinction of the human species among many others) that takes place in the far future? Only through reflection may we realize these dangers. Unfortunately, some people seem to rather care for the economy than the environment. They think it's not their responsibility or there has to be another way; both thoughts of convenience.

    Cheers~ :D
     
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    Human to earth is like a pest to crop. Destroying things under the pretense of survival is all we are good at, collectively.
     
  17. J.D.X.

    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    Boi, snipe all you want...
    I'd just sonic wave ya till you rage quit. :3
     
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  18. J.D.X.

    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    Or just Zentai his booty.
    Katana dash makes that distance advantage almost null.
     
  19. Isra

    Isra Cock and Ball Torture Elite Member

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    You're proving this by competing with me to prove your point.
    You dunce
     
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  20. Tieguai

    Tieguai Well-Known Member

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    L M A O

    Sorry I am no native english speaker, what exactly is a dunce?
     

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