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Question: Heavy Smash

Discussion in 'Brawler' started by Eliahzrel, Apr 18, 2017.

  1. Eliahzrel

    Eliahzrel Well-Known Member

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    Where does HS based its damage on stats?

    Does pure brawler with no STR can still do heavy nuke damage on boss with it?
     
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    orange Well-Known Member

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    If I'm not wrong, HS scales off atk stat.

    Pure brawler can still do high damage with HS, albeit lackluster compared to hybrid fu builds due to lower Atk to Agi growth, and no increase in crit damage from Agi stat.
     
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    BlackRex A Black Bunneh Elite Member

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    Just like every other skill. Damage for physical is based on ATK stat. The poor thing is AGI only adds 2 atk per stat. So AGI knuckle based char has lower ATK stat compared with staff STR or 1H STR.

    However guard break can proc more either from shell break or normal attack for aggravate n strong chase user
     
  4. Eliahzrel

    Eliahzrel Well-Known Member

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    Does Str give a boost on damage made ?
     
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    orange Well-Known Member

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    Pure brawler benefits more from agi then strength. Strength doesnt add physical atk for knuckle main, while agi adds 2 physical atk per stat.
     
  6. Eliahzrel

    Eliahzrel Well-Known Member

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    But would it give Crit damage a boost.
     
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    It would but better to go 230+agi rest str if u want dmg
     
  8. Eliahzrel

    Eliahzrel Well-Known Member

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    Wow you just read my mind..
     
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  9. orange

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    I'd recommend going for Vit after Agi. The additional crit damage bonus is outweighed by the potential increase in HP after u max out agi. Moreover, Agi as the main stat for brawler allows pure agi brawlers to dodge with high Flee; prorate and ampr with gatling-fast, instant autos; and deal significant damage at the same time. Going for Vitality makes you that much more tanky and useful for the party.

    Another path is to go for Int instead to benefit from +4 MATK per int and the potential to mix in magical attacks as secondary dps skills like storm or impact.

    Allocating points to crit boosts crit rate to aid brawlers increase overall damage and hit rate because critical attacks never "miss."

    Some pure brawlers choose to add dex instead for more Physical Atk increase, though the increase in damage is quite marginal compared to what Agi offers. However, Dex also increases HIT, so increasing dex mitigates the poor hit rate for most brawlers without adequate crit gears.

    I don't see Brawlers as that "Crazy yellow numbers" build. Pure Agi Brawlers are in fact, one of the most balanced builds in Toram compared to mainstream DPSers i.e Pure Strength Hybrid Fus, pure strength halberdiers, Bowgun Snipers, Pure Str 2-handers, and pure INT storm mage variants whom, without the right equipment, cannot hold a candle against pure agi brawlers when it comes to tankiness. Likewise. Brawlers don't deal as much damage as these builds without heavy investment in gears.

    The only other build that comes close to this kind of balance is evasion Dual wielders. In the wrong hands though, these dual wielders get squashed in AOEs due to long auto attack animation.

    In the end though, it's up to you to decide how you want your character to be.
     
  10. Eliahzrel

    Eliahzrel Well-Known Member

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    Well i do agree with you. Brawlers are no nuke.. If i would decide to use triple kick for DPS i would rather be a sword fu with the benifits of slash for fast dps and have warcry as well. In any how with item investment .. Brawlers cant go head to head with other class in damage or party ranks. But going solo really works very well
     
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    BlackRex A Black Bunneh Elite Member

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    If you choose to be a physical knuckle. AGI 255 and the rest is combined from STR DEX and CRT.
     
  12. Eliahzrel

    Eliahzrel Well-Known Member

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    I guess il make a for fun Brawler... Pure auto atk damage with flash blast and evasion.
     
  13. Eliahzrel

    Eliahzrel Well-Known Member

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    Even with investment to items the damage would not gurantee heavy damage nor fast kill. Its because SHELLBREAK doesnt guarantee BREAK that would give way to a high damage from Heavy Smash.. They should just redo that skill SB ..
     
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    To me, shell break is op enough as it is with that 400 mp recovery. Pure brawlers have another option to gurd break--strong chase and aggravate. Hybrid fus dont get that and that is what makes brawlers unique. Triple kick is a decent enough dps skill for brawlers too.

    There was a flash blast brawler build around here somewhere, and it looks amazingly fun
     
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    Eliahzrel Well-Known Member

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    I wil
    I will make a flash blast brawler but wont guarantee item build yet short of spina.. I ll post a video later
     
  16. Eliahzrel

    Eliahzrel Well-Known Member

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    I made a mistake on my Ice claw.. Rather than agi i put Atk Str Cd..
     
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    BlackRex A Black Bunneh Elite Member

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    Flashbast build required aggro.. if u rely in auto attaking, enemies will turn their aggro toward other.
     
  18. Eliahzrel

    Eliahzrel Well-Known Member

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    Theres a knight skill provoke
     
  19. RyeUshio

    RyeUshio The Blue Bull Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    Put it up on board coz a pretty radical full str brawler might buy it. Lol.

    Personally, I haven't tried flashblast because I like dodge more over evasion so that my gatling punches won't be halted.

    I prefer hitting and doing damage rather than allowing some unknown power do it for me. ^_^
     
  20. Eliahzrel

    Eliahzrel Well-Known Member

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    Is Having hidden arm and intense knife a good thing?
     

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