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Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by Sowc, Nov 9, 2018.

  1. Sowc

    Sowc Well-Known Member

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    I am Sowc. Yes I is. Random ideas that has been floating around, maybe I or someone might work on it.

    • Burst Mage
      • Requires 1k cspd minimum
      • Chain Cast seems to reduce by half of what's left after cspd reduction, so requires 2 magic skills before Burst, & Arrows need to directly precede Burst
        • Arrows > Arm Breaker (Save) > Burst (Smite) > Impact (Cons) > Paralysis (Swift)
      • Based solely on Skill Multiplier per Cast Time (sec):
        • Finale (the 10 mp Smited one), deals 60 multiplier per 6 seconds (Includes mp charge) - 10 multiplier per second
        • Burst (see combo above; 90% combo tag), deals 18 multiplier per 0.5 seconds (Arrows is the only Cast Time skill) - 36 multiplier per second
      • More or less lacks the issue of Magic Flinch that Finale suffers from
      • If you're crazy, stack Godspeed Wield for even faster Burst
      • Seems like it would work. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


    • Actual Brawler (I don't think real brawlers shoot laser beams from their fists ಠ_ಠ)
      • Stack aspd with Godspeed (Not Wield), Rush, Quick Aura, & Berserk
        • From my calculations, with max Agi, final Aspd is approx. 8.5k, 10k with Wandering Wheel xtal
      • Endless Blitz with MD sub weapon
        • With both Resonance & Maximizer, MP is not a worry. Actually, screw auto attacks entirely
        • Reflex > Berserk (Save) > Impact (Swift) > Rush (Smite) > Finale (Smite)
      • If Resonance is ready, spam until MP is gone
        • Impact > Rush (Smite) > Finale (Smite)
        • If less than 14 mp bars:
          • Rush > Impact (Save) > Finale (Smite)
      • New knuckles are great: Twin Eagle (ง'̀-'́)ง
        • Opens up equipment slots for things other than Critical Rate boost


    Meme builds:

    • Dragoon
      • Screw Arm Breaker, real Lancer use Two-Handed Polearm. ヾ(⌐■_■)ノ♪
      • LANCER GA SHINDA!

    • AMPR H̶e̶a̶v̶e̶n̶ Hell (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
      • Duel Wield, obviously
      • 20 [base] + 40 [MP] + 25 [Rampage] + 40 [Trigger Slash] + 200 [Regretless] + 20 [Tapir] + 12 [Grecia] + 30 [Clarity Rose] + 18 [Zoe] + 20 [Titeres]= 425 ampr
      • Game Plan:
        • Buster Blade > Impact (Cons) > Meteor Breaker (Smite) > Finale (Smite)
        • Auto Attack
        • Repeat
      • 25.5 effective skill multiplier

    • I wish Tank could use Maximizer...
      • Staff + Shield
      • Thank goodness Finale has a Massive Skill Constant. No need to invest into Matk
      • Invest everything into Resistance
        • Imperial Shield +C
        • Anniversary Dress +C
        • Circle of Order +C
        • Hard Shell Talisman
        • Force Shield
      • MP on demand! Spam Provoke! Spam Bless! Spam Sanctuary! SPAM P. DEF!!!
      • Effective Sanctuary Power:
        • About ~15k Hp with Max Int, Rest Vit
        • ~ 70% effective damage negation from Resistance - Effective dmg taken = 30%
        • ~ 20% effective damage negation from Def/MDef - Effective dmg taken = 80%
        • 15k * (1/30%) * (1/80%) = 62k effective HP
        • Raw enemy dmg needs to be greater than 6.2k for Sanctuary to NOT work
      • ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ
     
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  2. WindSlash

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    If you add Decoy shot to ampr heaven hell, you can just ignore auto-attack for 2mins. xDDD
     
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    I did try a staff tank once precisely because I wanted to get maximizer for mp so that I could SPAM P.def and provoke at will. after spamming P.def I would find a 10 second delay between the boss' attacks so I could replenish all my mp in one go and resume spamming again, it worked excellently on some bosses, but the problem is the lack of +100 crit staff so for high evasion bosses like gwaimol and ornlarf good luck trying to stun or flinch them for breaking, most if not all of your attacks will "miss". I once tried to stun ornlarf using shield bash with my staff tank and it took 10 shield bashes for it to proc successfully and not miss lol. In the end I switched to a bowgun+shield tank and rely on decoy shot for ampr. I don't have to stop for 10 seconds just to do mp charge+maximizer, since decoy shot along with bowgun practically gives infinite mp even for bosses that moves around the stage, and using diver's bowgun with +100 crit ensures each interruption will hit just like toy hammer or drills, my usual play style with bowgun tank was to go near the center of the stage, cast decoy shot using a short combo, and after casting guardian simply stand in place in the center, observe the boss(or bosses), and spam p.def for all their attacks, for multiple bosses like scary or hero potum with comrade I spam warcry without a combo to aggro all the bosses, I never had mp problems with decoy shot lol, and with my ampr I could even spam warcry worth 300 mp every 2-3 seconds without decreasing my mp pool one bit
     
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    what about guardian??
     
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    magic gunner with cf+finale ? cast finale when cf is charging. cast cf(charge)> shot finale combo> cf done charging (release). dex stat add some matk (cmiiw) so finale damage will increase along with cf damage and decoy as mp source.
     
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    Additional magic dmg is not bad.

    Best use of this now would be the NPC version of Lil empress with a whopping 300% Additional magic dmg.

    300 + 100 + 150 + 30

    580% Additional magic, and 250% Additional Melee if you put commander golem

    You'll top out at about 2k MATK And 1.7k ATK though with Int Agi

    Maybe get around 10k Additional Melee dmg and 25k Additional Magic Dmg at best. Which isn't bad since you're just auto attacking. Combine that with 15k Ticks on Storm and 10k tick on Wall per second. Still won't compare to finale, but you can get some reliable constant damage without having to be a sitting duck
     
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    cf charges with shot skills so maybe...
    but finale dmg won't be high because it's boost comes from int, not matk nor dex.
    for magic gunner, I'd prefer full int and rest dex...(maybe 40 vit for survivability?)
    so u get high dmg finale and able to gain boost from magic arrow in hunter skill...
     
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    % additional magic is not talking about additional magic dmg added to your atk but percent chance of extra attack occurring.. it doesn't add into your skill. Those stats makes strange circle on the air and shoots magic line to the mob or boss (additional magic stat), some strange internal burst from mob or boss (additional melee stat).
     
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    I have this build idea too but American gonna hate me for that :
    THE FLASHY BLASTSY VIETNAMESE FLASHBACK daimyoo build :
    Requirements :
    75% Evasion
    DS's Flash Blast lvl 10
     
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  10. Arcata

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    SPILL IT OUT I'm curious owo
     
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    yes that is correct. it is an additional hit that can occur during auto attack. with 2k matk and 580% additional magic, you can knock out over 20k hits on your autos.
     
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    Have u ever made 580% additional magic
     
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    nah most i did was 380% and i was getting 20k tops with fireworks.

    an extra 200% from lil empress, though has less atk, should jump up the damage past 20k, up to 25k as stated earlier
     
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    so the percent is not the chance that attack appears but the dmg multiplier? Hmm.. worth going for it then
     
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    its alright. youre not going to get atker rank with it. but at least you can supply dps while supporting and not have to worry about being stuck and losing your buffs.

    staff + zoe book might be better though since the best staff has comparable dmg to fireworks. you can get more dmg from your skills and gain pdef as a bonus.
     
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    aw I missed zoe book .w.
     
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    K O M R A D E P L S
     
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    now I regret putting Lapin the necromancer crystal on queen potum staff
     
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    eh???
     

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