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[Ranting] can I get whatever Dev smoking when they balancing toram ?

Discussion in 'Katana' started by Bismarck, Jun 9, 2018.

  1. PauPauPau

    PauPauPau Well-Known Member

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    tenryu build done right can out damage other classes even with a non +s weapon. no others class has a skill that increases damage everytime you use it. there are people that already did it right and say that katana is best melee dps.
     
  2. ingame778

    ingame778 Well-Known Member

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    Best dps ingame so far not just melee, but needs close range, charging, high hp, timing, mp...everything that mages and snipers dont have problems at
    Provided that finale misses easily like at ult machina or deniala or td, tenryu is much faster because enemy chasing (crossfire isnt enemy chasing but casts fast)
    Disliked York for that huehuehuehue, afraid wont get atker when farming there lols
     
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  3. Ari999

    Ari999 Well-Known Member

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    Make halberds great again thanks
     
  4. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    There was this one guy who was seriously upset and said that mage is the worst class in the game few months ago when there was no finale. And now after likes 3 months theres you.
    Katana hasso user especially completely outclassed mage btw why didnt you join toram back then? Lol
    It seems theres complete lose-lose situation here. There will always be some person upset that their favourite class is not as good in terms of dps.

    Let me give you a run down of the future of toram:-
    2h+Halberd+Katana all 3 classes are high dmg growth classes. 2h/Halberd due to their very high weapon atk and katana due to its immense growth with stats namely dex and str. Finale on the other hand is a high constant skill meaning it is op even without any matk but grows very slowly with high matk % wise.
    So slowly but steadily all 3 said classes can catch up with finale dmg. (Unless they decide to give critical to magic skills then theres no hope for physical in this game)
    Thats not the main issue tho. The main issue why the game or just finale is unbalanced is because mage can go int>vit instead of int>dex and barely lose any finale dmg, even equipping very tanky set with high resistance and hp they dont lose much dmg. Meaning mage can become immortal while these said classes become glassy babies that die from a scratch by the boss if they try to go full dps. Either way mage cant tank or get breaker rank as good as katana so you can aim for that for now.

    P.S. First of all I suggest remove that useless grecia xta and replace it with odelon.
    Try watching katana tenryu gameplay on yt and figure out your style/combo/skills. Also from experience mage can not solo boss as fast as katana so you can prove your worth that way as well. You do NOT have to join a party to show that you are powerful.
     
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  5. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Nty halberd is op already with that free 100% pierce they get. I have seen halberd users beat finale for many nm/ulti bosses.

    Make 2H GREAT again.
     
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    Ari999 Well-Known Member

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    Please tell me the secret of the halb
     
  7. Jbazt

    Jbazt Into the Forsaken Realm of Consciousness Elite Member

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    What worse is you even got out damaged by a full Luk mage :fail:. Coz that skill made luk mages can farm boss now and many full luk max that to farm boss. They should put like -matk/vit penalty per luk on that skill :p
     
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    Bismarck Active Member

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    You do NOT have to join a party to show that you are powerful
    there are 2 thing. I sad for this.
    1. I really enjoy party. and the base why i want to be strong is, i want to help other player (mainly lower player) 80% of my time (after i max everything) is random walk to many place and help other people, heck i even frequently give away my drops & xtall i get to random people i meet,
    2. i cant stun/break, how i can get loot to survive (get spina) ? going solo makes matter worst, coz i cant even get loot from breaking parts.

    Breaker, Tank, Odelon, okay. noted, this will be my new aim, THANK YOU VERY MUCH !!!
     
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  9. Lucifere

    Lucifere Angel of Rebellion Elite Member

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    Im mage and it have survival as disadvantaje futhermore mage have been like 3 years just being as prorater it was time to recieve more love of devs.
     
  10. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Well by breaking I mean prorating and getting breaker rank.
    Breaking boss parts and stunning are things katana is not good at. Katana tap damage is quite low as well.
    Also I dont mean you have to solo all the time but you can just do it for your own personal satisfaction, sometimes you play toram just to beat the big bad boss alone not to gain items or help others. Katana even got many skills that it benifits from when fighting solo, skills like zantei that require parry much easier to use while soloing. Just like dw, katana is a class build for people that enjoy soloing they are not the top of the dps line but are very fun when you are 1v1 against the boss, me too I build my katana coz of my interest in soloing bosses. You can still take on the role of a tank in party when theres none available. You just need to learn the older style of zantei to do that however as the current tenryu spam style does not have high aggro at all.

    If you really just want a character that can be good at parties all over however I have to say unfortunately katana is not good for you.
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    I have both a katana and a mage. My katana cant survive blue aoes from ulti mode bosses but my mage can. You just need to remove all that dex you probably have and add more vit also opt for higher resistance if possible.
     
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    You can survive 30k magic damage from small blue bullet aoe of Ultimate memenculos (...that big lion)???
     
  13. Bismarck

    Bismarck Active Member

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    come on bro, dont say the obvious, be civil.
    okay, now i get the point, Thank You once again.
    so, may i ask ? if... if i want to build a character solely to help party, what is that ? can we discuss the detail here ?
     
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    ????????????????????????
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    You mean 4k-5k dmg magic bullet? :p
     
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    kucingHD Well-Known Member

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    Oh my, your magic resistance must be so high. (...nice! :eek:)
    Even resistance from chakra + m.barrier(skill) can't save my 15k HP mage.
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Need more magic resistance%. Magic barrier is not that great and chakra if without knux is low as well. Me I had around 120% magic resist to do that. My phys resist was very low however so once tumbling accidently it hit me with 10k dmg xD. Luckily I was at full health.

    Sorry for the late reply.
    1h+Shield, Knux+Shield or Bg+Shield all are very good at tanking bosses and breaking parts by stunning/flinch. Whether you want to make them full vit or semi dps is up to you.
    Dps classes are usually:- 2h/Halberd/Katana/Mage/Bow. The amount of damage they can deal of course is different. However it also depends on the boss you are fighting. Mage and halberd in my opinion are stronger in comparision coz of the unique traits of their skills. Mage having finale with 3000 constant while halberd having d.tooth with 100% physical pierce. These 2 classes make killing nm/ulti bosses very easy. Nm/ulti bosses give fairly high exp making them good classes to help lvl new players. Breaking boss parts is almost never possible in ulti modes so if you want to help someone get a drop item you need to farm easy/normal/hard with full break and fast runs. Full breaks will require flinch/tumble/stun skills which the above mentioned tank classes can possess.
    Good party is a combination of 1 tank + 3 dps. Theres various other ways you can support your party in boss runs like helping buff them with chakra/war cry/BraveAura or helping killing annoying boss minions like the eggs at jade raptor by using piercing skills like throw knife or simply healing their ailments with recovery skill.
    There are many ways to be useful in a party you need discover all of them.
     
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  18. kucingHD

    kucingHD Well-Known Member

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    yeh, both chakra and m.barrier only protect me once while that magic bullet(...the one that meme shots from its mouth) has two dmg, one from thouching it and another one from the explosion after it lands.
    Hit me 12k(supposed to be 28k without skill buff) + 9k damage.

    This one is true.
     
  19. Oh so Intricate

    Oh so Intricate Well-Known Member

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    Personally I don't have a thing against finale, mage deserve that skill. What we should all hate is the skill "Maximizer". I thought finale would become something grand and a one-time use skill, but maximizer degrades finale into a controversial and hateful skill.

    I doubt they'd change how finale and maximizer works tho, because that means they would have to give something like free reset again. And that's bad for business.
     
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    you just cant use it do say it suck

    bow katana tenryu spam 7 - 10 time
    sniper + garyou. you must try it even with cheap gear set still do good damage
    compare to finale mage garyou setup more damage
    ( katana user or build not for rank but for fun soloing bos)
     
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