RIP Tanks 2.0

A1dren · Jan 8, 2017

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CURRENT NEWS:
*** The new tank I will be making is a 1h/shield tank *** tests under progress...

If you want to see a certain type of tank made, cast your vote in the poll above. After two weeks, I will work on creating an ultimate tank based on which choice won.

All tanks I make are tested and tried. I generally make my tanks for a general populace, where they usually don't need any specific gear setup to work. They are also able to take and keep aggro from all variants of Kung Fu builds, otherwise I will not post them here.
I pride myself on making tanks for people that want to customize their gear to their needs, so I do not list any crystals that I use, nor gear unless they are necessary.

If you are interested in tanking, and have any questions, feel free to ask them here. I have studied tanking aspects extensively, and know quite a lot. However, I may not answer some questions, depending on the nature of them.

Legend:
* = optional
spoilers = tank builds/skills
bold = section
italicized = important information

Recovery: This skill will remove one or more status ailments on the player. The higher the level, the more status ailments that can be removed.

Quick Draw: The skill will sometimes give you an extra 100 mp when using your skills. It works while doing a combo, and has around a 30% proc rate at max level. With the changes to shell break, this has seen a small amount of usage, but I would recommend still maxing it out. Due to how many people in a party now use some form of guard breaking (for the mp recovery), a tank does not have as much chances of getting the mana regeneration through shell break as you'd think. Quick Draw is a fall back skill for this.

Guard Skills: The guard skills are passive stats given to you while wearing either heavy or light armor. The heavy armor will give you 10% extra guard rate at max level, and the light armor will give you 10% more evasion at max level. Personally, I only use guard skills when I have extra points, but heavy armor mastery helps a lot when using shields, and light armor mastery helps a lot when using light armor.

MP Charge: For obvious reasons, I find this skill extremely useful. Having the skill to restore your mp through other means than sitting down, or auto attacking an enemy is invaluable. There will be times in boss fights where you may run out of mp, and MP Charge is what you'll need. At max level, it restores 300 mp, and takes anywhere from 3-6 seconds to cast.

Provoke: A simple aggro-generating skill. It costs 200 mp at max level, and creates 1200 aggro points. It's quite useful for instances where burst aggro is necessary, but a combo will generally be better for sustained aggro generation.

MP Boost: At max level, this will permanently increase your mp total by 300. It's not a passive skill I would go out of my way to get, but it is useful as it allows for more aggro-generation. Get this only if you have the extra points to spend and want it.

Sober Analysis: Proven by Mugami to be useful, it will slowly recover your mp over time, every 3 seconds at max level. While I consider it outclassed by Shell Break and Quick Draw, it's still a good passive for maintaining mana during a fight.

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TANKS

This build is one of the easiest and effective tank builds. It does not require much to be used, and has an effective combo for stopping enemies. At a minimum, this tank can be effective for maintaining aggro against any player at around Lv50.

Stats: max Vit > Agi
Having full vitality will give you upwards of 20k health. I put the rest of my points into agi for the higher dodge rate and attack speed. Some people prefer mentality for the status resistance, but I have never had a real problem with it, as I keep the recovery skill on a hotkey to use whenever I need to. Likewise, some tanks put the extra points into intelligence for the magic defense, but dodging skill shots and aoes are fairly easy to do, so I see no point in getting extra magic defense.

Skills points: 87(*132)
Martial: 41
10/10 smash
10/10 bash
10/10 shell break
10/10 sonic wave
1/10 heavy smash
Shot: 16 (*36)
5/10 power shot
5/10 moeba shot
5/10 paralyze shot
1/10 smoke dust
Magic: 10
10/10 mp charge
*Knight: 10
10/10 provoke
*Survival: 15
5/10 safe rest
10/10 hp boost
Support: 20
5/10 mini heal
5/10 recovery
10/10 sanctuary

Combo: 100 mp cost
Non Interrupt:
moeba shot > smoke dust(save) > sanctuary(swift) > heavy smash(con) > shell break(con)

Interrupt:
smash > smoke dust(save) > *sonic wave(swift) > *sanctuary(swift) > shell break(save) > bash(swift) > moeba shot(swift)

*sonic wave and sanctuary are interchangeable with each other, depending on how the boss reacts to different interrupting skills. IE: if the boss takes a long time to recover from a flinch interrupt, having sonic wave in such a close consecutive chain of interrupts is not recommended. You'd want to switch it with sanctuary to get the most out of each interrupt delay time.

Neccessary Gear:
Main Weapon: Drills
Secondary Weapon: High Quality Wood Arrow/Mushroom Arrow/Optional
Armor: Light-Modelled Armor
Additional: Optional
Special: Magician's Ring/Knight's Talisman/Optional

This build is what was requested from the tank poll. It utilizes a 1h sword and shield, and focuses on spamming fast attacks for aggro, as well as keeping your damage taken to as little as possible.

Stats: max Vit > Dex/Crit
You want to max vitality first to make sanctuary more effective. Afterwards, it's a choice between dexterity or crit. Dexterity would be for if you want to do some damage, as well as hit more accurately. Crit would be for if you don't care about damage, and want to reach close to 100% crit, so your attacks will never miss. Please note that dexterity will reduce the chances of your attacks missing, but crit will completely negate that possibility (with 100% crit).

Skills points: 130(*140)
Martial: 11
5/10 smash
5/10 bash
1/10 shell break
Shot: 20
5/10 shot mastery
5/10 long range
10/10 quick draw
Sword: 38
10/10 hard hit
6/10 astute
6/10 trigger slash
5/10 sonic blade
10/10 spiral air
1/10 tempest
Magic: 10
10/10 mp charge
*Knight: 10
10/10 provoke
*Survival: 15
5/10 safe rest
10/10 hp boost
Support: 20
5/10 mini heal
5/10 recovery
10/10 sanctuary
Priest: 1
1/10 holy fist
Shield: 15
5/10 shield mastery
10/10 shield bash

Combo: 100 mp cost
Non Interrupt:
astute> shell break(save) > holy fist(swift) > trigger slash(swift) > tempest(save) > sanctuary(swift)

Interrupt:
hard hit > shell break(save) > shield bash(swift) > spiral air(con) > astute(con) > trigger slash(swift) > tempest(save) > sanctuary(swift)

Neccessary Gear:
Main Weapon: Fan/Brutal Dragon Sword/Black Sword of Delusion/Sword with c10/10
Secondary Weapon: Marble Shield, Relief Shield
Armor: Plate Armor/Heavy-Modelled Armor
Additional: Optional
Special: Magician's Ring/Knight's Talisman/Optional

One of my favorite builds. The two hand tank can get 100% crit with relative ease, and thus have 100% accuracy. In addition, its aggro generation is one of the highest in the game, and allows for the player to keep tanking without worry.

Stats: max Vit > Str/Agi
You want to max vitality first to make sanctuary more effective. Having more str will allow you to do more damage, while having agi will allow you to dodge more auto attacks and attack slightly faster.

Skills points: 110(*120)
Martial: 11
5/10 smash
5/10 bash
1/10 shell break
Shot: 20
5/10 shot mastery
5/10 long range
10/10 quick draw
Sword: 33
10/10 hard hit
6/10 astute
1/10 trigger slash
5/10 sonic blade
10/10 spiral air
1/10 tempest
Magic: 10
10/10 mp charge
*Knight: 10
10/10 provoke
*Survival: 15
5/10 safe rest
10/10 hp boost
Support: 20
5/10 mini heal
5/10 recovery
10/10 sanctuary
Priest: 1
1/10 holy fist

Combo: 100 mp cost
Non Interrupt:
holy fist > shell break(save) > astute(con) > trigger slash(swift) > tempest(save) > sanctuary(swift)

Interrupt:
hard hit > shell break(save) > astute(con) > spiral air(con) > trigger slash(swift) > tempest(save) > sanctuary(swift)

Neccessary Gear:
Main Weapon: Stubborn Hammer
Secondary Weapon: n/a
Armor: Plate Armor
Additional: Optional
Special: Magician's Ring/Knight's Talisman/Optional

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im sorry.. maybe im wrong but looking at ur 1mp combo at (1h + Sheild spoiler) does it really use 1mp? Shell Break cost 300mp n by saving it.. it store up 300mp for next combo but swifting Holy fist(100mp) n Trigger slash(300mp for 1h) doesnt tht exceed tht stored up mana? '-'
maybe it's me tht missing out somethin here.. idk ._./ (im a newb anyway)

Caskadia · Jan 8, 2017

Trigger slash at Lv6+ consumes 200mp instead.

A1dren · Jan 8, 2017

Caskadia said: ↑

Trigger slash at Lv6+ consumes 200mp instead.
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ah no wonder.. i nvr know Trigger have an mp reduction cost if it's reach to a certain lvl
my tank used trigger slash too but i only put 1 on it.. (just want tht motion speed enchance for the next skill)
thnx for tht info ^^

Caskadia · Jan 8, 2017

A1dren said: ↑

ah no wonder.. i nvr know Trigger have an mp reduction cost if it's reach to a certain lvl
my tank used trigger slash too but i only put 1 on it.. (just want tht motion speed enchance for the next skill)
thnx for tht info ^^
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It's np, you can show your appreciation by spreading the word I'm back lol XD

A1dren · Jan 8, 2017

Caskadia said: ↑

It's np, you can show your appreciation by spreading the word I'm back lol XD
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well tht's easy.. check out what i'l do next

mayam · Jan 8, 2017

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Been a long time since I came to this forum again. I've been doing other things as of late, but I'm back in Toram and building new class tanks.

If anyone is interested, I'll post my sword and shield guardian tank, my knuckle shield guardian tank and my Halberd tank here.
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R U FINALLY BACK?!

Caskadia · Jan 8, 2017

Mayam said: ↑

R U FINALLY BACK?!
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[>°~°]> yush <[°~°<]

Bago2 · Jan 8, 2017

spear tank otw@_@ wb!!!

mayam · Jan 9, 2017

Caskadia said: ↑

[>°~°]> yush <[°~°<]
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I am working on a new thread called "ultimate survivors guide" which will have a compilation of all the stats and skills which can reduce dmg taken from bosses and some good tips for tanking. I also want to put up an additional section there for aggro and its calculation if i can know the test data of yours also if theres anything new i can help you test stuff too.
Tell me if you are interested in collaborating for that ^^

Caskadia · Jan 9, 2017

Mayam said: ↑

I am working on a new thread called "ultimate survivors guide" which will have a compilation of all the stats and skills which can reduce dmg taken from bosses and some good tips for tanking. I also want to put up an additional section there for aggro and its calculation if i can know the test data of yours also if theres anything new i can help you test stuff too.
Tell me if you are interested in collaborating for that ^^
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Hello there Mayam,
I would be happy to help you with the survivors guide. I've extensively studied most, if not all, skills and tested them to see how they could be useful for taking hits. Just let me know what you'd like help with, or if you have any questions.

mayam · Jan 9, 2017

Caskadia said: ↑

Hello there Mayam,
I would be happy to help you with the survivors guide. I've extensively studied most, if not all, skills and tested them to see how they could be useful for taking hits. Just let me know what you'd like help with, or if you have any questions.
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I will pm you the stuff yet to be tested from my side, tyvm.

Caskadia · Jan 10, 2017

Update: making sword mage tank.

Caskadia · Jan 11, 2017

New update : the 1h sword Mage Tank kind of turned into an all purpose super tank. I'll post the details of it after I've levelled it up sufficiently.

vana · Mar 10, 2017

Could you do a spear tank ...... Would love to see it.

BK · Mar 10, 2017

vana said: ↑

Could you do a spear tank ...... Would love to see it.
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Spear tanks should utilize the big amounts of guard power that they can get, with some equips and skills u can already get 80% guard power and decent guard rate, thats without xstals too, u could get 100% guard power with xstals or u could even use around 90% then focus on other things, with that full vit isnt needed so u could either do str aswell or agi

vana · Mar 10, 2017

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Spear tanks should utilize the big amounts of guard power that they can get, with some equips and skills u can already get 80% guard power and decent guard rate, thats without xstals too, u could get 100% guard power with xstals or u could even use around 90% then focus on other things, with that full vit isnt needed so u could either do str aswell or agi
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Tanks would try it when I get the chance....

BK · Mar 10, 2017

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Tanks would try it when I get the chance....
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Ud need a ice spear which gives 25% g,rate and power, parrying dagger which gives 15% g,rate and power, any heavy armour which gives 5%g,rate and 25% g,power, any add, but i like gladiator helm for another 10%g,power, then heavy armour mastery+advanced guard which gives a total of 20% g,rate 5% g,power

SirEgg · Mar 10, 2017

Only probs with spear tanks are their lack of aggros. They are offering too much for guard power and have almost no space for getting aggros. MP management is another issue as well.

vana · Mar 12, 2017

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Ud need a icepear which gives 25% g,rate and power, parrying dagger which gives 15% g,rate and power, any heavy armour which gives 5%g,rate and 25% g,power, any add, but i like gladiator helm for another 10%g,power, then heavy armour mastery+advanced guard which gives a total of 20% g,rate 5% g,power
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Thank you sir...... Was just about to ask the equipt and you answered before I even got the chance. Thanks again “ψ(｀∇´)ψ

mayam · Mar 12, 2017

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Thank you sir...... Was just about to ask the equipt and you answered before I even got the chance. Thanks again “ψ(｀∇´)ψ
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For aggro go for either smoke shot with arrow sub or dive impact + war cry without arrow sub.
You can make it semi dps 200str rest vit is good too.
For mp recovery having tons of hp you can utilize war cry of struggle by fixing your hp in battle below 50%
Punish ray is a must so choc ooze + cspd pot to make it below 1sec cast so that you can get 100% crt for very high dodge bosses.

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