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Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by Kenen Rose, Nov 3, 2017.

  1. Kenen Rose

    Kenen Rose Well-Known Member

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    theres the crit factor plus the guard break
     
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    Neric of House Limitless, First of His Name, The Unburnt Elite Member

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    it's different.. a skill without any combo effect is 100%dmg at default
     
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    but tkick is in a combo
     
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    Neric of House Limitless, First of His Name, The Unburnt Elite Member

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    I'm just saying the penalty and bonus from smited tkick
     
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    ahhh, i do know that 90% dmg of tkick. its true that its pretty bad that it subtracts but heres what i think, the astute is already painful itself plus its crit rate increase. i cover that 90% dmg by using that critr increase. i was also thinking of making burst combo using spiral air because its effect gives u critdmg. so if i somehow find a way to use burst spiral, i can over dmg that 90%.
    spiral air + astute + tkick = crit dmg + crit r + high dps

    see my point?
     
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    what will be your combo again?
     
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    the one with tkick? it goes like this
    Astute>Shell Break (save)>Tkick (smite) > HH or Sonic kick (cons) > Trigger slash (cons)
    ive been thinking on changing shell break with spiral, but spiral itself deals heavy damage altho its a stationary move and a slow skill. but shell break also uses heavy damage and restores mp. so im in somehow in a struggle on this
     
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    Spiral is bad coz doesn't crit and affects your proration instead
     
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    spiral has a side effect, like astute, it gives higher crit dmg for 9 seconds
     
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    from what I have observed not that much
     
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    if thats the case then ill stick with shell break. hmm even if the spiral doesnt give much crit dmg bonus, it would be enough to cover that 10% lack, or not?
     
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    dmg is really different if a skill crits especially if your full str and have cdmg equips
     
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    True, i guess ill put spiral in a diff combo, prob a gap closing combo
     
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    I don't know if u already playing before the spiral effect has long range flinching effect. it was a really nice feature but they removed it and screwed that skill
     
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    I did but they said its a bug, like the fighters high "bug"
     
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    it's not.. it's really on d description.. anyways most bosses now are anti flinch so it's fine
     
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    I feel like hh is being useless, so i use sonic wave which can be used near or far and is also a fast skill. Plus the flinch if hh is really bad now
     
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    lol true I rarely use hard hit now ... stuck with 300mp combo with my 2h it's good I don't lose mp by having decent ampr and I feel quick draw is broken coz even I do auto atk it procs but just several occasions
     
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    Ah so u play using big combos, thats really hard for me honestly. I dont really like slow and hard to get combos, for me its really hard. So i always use fast spammin combos. I let the auto atk do its skill power increase to strengthen my skills. Atm im level 76 (dont blame me, ive just come back to this game suprised to see fighters high nerfed so i was trying to make a build suited for me) and i cant fight w/o giga aspd cuz my gears are bs made so i have like 490 aspd :(. But im planning on fixing it once i reached 110 or 115
     
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    since you came back.. proration has been adjusted that spamming can lower your dmg terribly especially for martial skills like triple kick
     

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