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Seeking help about 2H-sword Warrior Equipment

Discussion in '2-Hand' started by Icy Gaze, Jan 13, 2018.

  1. Icy Gaze

    Icy Gaze Active Member

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    Hello! I want to find a new equipment, but I don't know which equipment is the best, and I don't know how to get them.

    First of all, here's my situation. I am a Level 70 and a 2-handed sword player. I just started playing three days ago, or so. All this time, I used weapons dropped by monsters which I acquired along the way while I was doing my Main Quests. Those are the Untradable weapons, as you may know. I have only been using powerful mercenaries from my guild to advance on MQ and to grind, and now, I want stronger equipment. So far, this is what I got:

    Weapon: Flamberge
    Armor: Warrior Mail
    Additional Gear: Knight Helmet
    Special Gear: Sofys Talisman

    I distributed my stats just on Str > Dex. I didn't know which of the stats I should also put points to besides Str and Dex. Probably Vit. Probably.

    Now, I might be able to buy equipment from the Consignment Board or from other players, but I only have 15, 000 Spina, so I'm very poor. I can't even buy my own Revitas. I'll probably team up with others to farm Minotaur Skin and to sell to other players, but I don't know how much warrior equipment is nowadays. They must be very expensive.

    I could also farm materials on my own if I find a great Equipment Recipe from the Blacksmith, or probably farm the equipment from bosses or other monsters. Hopefully, I can beat them up with my current state.

    So, do you guys have ideas which equipment and where to get it? Sorry for the long post, and thank you to whomever reads and answers my questions!
     
  2. screamingfox

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    Since nobody else has replied yet, I guess i'll start off and let people correct me if i'm wrong anywhere.

    Let's start with stats. From least important to most important.
    VIT: Get as you need it. The stat is important but making sure you minimize your investment into it is for the best. As armor crystals will supplement your HP needs later into the game.
    CRT: 2H Swordies don't need much CRT due to how Astute handing out a 50% CRT rate buff when used. As long as you hit with Astute, you typically won't need much CRT, be careful with this stat.
    DEX: Second most important stat you'll be adding in between maxing STR or after you max STR. Not only does it provide some much needed accuracy to, so that astute hits, but it provides all of the stability for 2H's, as well as another point of damage per point. There's no real downsides to adding this stat as it helps you in all facets.
    STR: Just max it asap. If you find yourself missing. Maybe add DEX, but otherwise just pump this as much as possible. No matter how poor you are, just do it.

    As for equipment. If your guildies are willing to set you up with a cheap starter weapon, i'd ask them if they can provide you one. Otherwise, invest into a cheap Additional gear. Crystal Earrings, War Helmet, Spiky Bandana, Gothic Hat (+14 crt are fairly cheap), and other higher level cheap additional gears will provide a lot of stats for cheap. After that pick up an unslotted Muscle Talisman III. The extra MP and STR will help a bit.

    As you gain more from Minotaur farming or whatever you'll do for Spina. Try buying a cheap weapon on the Consignment Board. Once you're at the 100k spina range. Decent Sealing Blade's start to become a pretty good weapon of choice. If you can find one statted already, even better.

    After all of that, focus on armor. If you can get an NPC armor of desire to you. Get it. Don't waste your time on Player made unstatted armors. The DEF increase is not worth it and the added stats of NPC armors will benefit you more in most cases. Once you've got enough spina to buy a decent player weapon and Tyrant Mask, then consider armor. You've got a lot more pressing matters to attend to before then.

    Hope this helped. o:.
     
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  3. Icy Gaze

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    It helps a lot! Thank you! I just have one thing that I didn't understand. What did you mean by "statted"?

    One of my guildies said that I should just buy equipment from players who made them, because she said every weapon dropped by monsters and from the Blacksmiths aren't that really good.

    I remember she mentioned something about getting Twilight Dress for armor, yet when I look at the Consignment Board, there are a lot of Twilight Dresses with different effects! Everything is so confusing! Hope you could enlighten me on this one.
     
  4. screamingfox

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    Statted gear is simply player gear that has had stats added onto them. Player made armor has potential, this potential is used as a resource for players to add and take away stats from armors.

    Anyway, as you look into Blacksmithing, Sythesizing, and Gear enchanting, you'll find out more on this. It's something I wouldn't worry about until you've got enough spina to start investing into it.

    For you as a 2H sword main. You'll typically want Atk%, Str%, CDMG% on your weapon and STR%, CDMG%, CDMG for armor. These will also come with negative effects tagged onto them, such as -matk% and -magic pierce, and other various stats. These are necessary to stat the weapon/armor and are usually tailored to impact your builds main strengths as little as possible.

    As for NPC weapons and armor. I can agree with her that NPC weapons aren't very good. It depends on what you can afford though. NPC weapons within your reach should hold you well enough until you can get enough spina to afford a unstatted or poorly statted Sinergatis or Sealing Blade. If you can find a cheap Sinergatis or Sealing Blade (make sure you look at the atk!) within your reach. Go for it. Until then, NPC weapons will hold you fine.

    As for Twilight Dress. The defense you get from a unslotted clean Twilight Dress isn't worth it when you can get something like a Forest Wolf Garb to start you out. Even a poorly stated Twilight Dress won't be doing you much better than even low level NPC armor. From a cost perspective. If you can snag a Twilight just few a few thousand though. Give it a try. I just personally don't recommend it when you're just starting out since the defense won't matter much and is typically neglected even at level cap.
     
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    if you are planning on making best equipment and also farm the material to make the equipment I would prefer going with player crafter get a friend or someone who you trust and get them to create the equipment after you farm because atm player crafted equipment are the best 777 for 2h sword and S7CD7CD14.777 is easier to stat but S7CD7CD14 might be a little expensive since it requires alot of mana is to make it
     
  6. Icy Gaze

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    Thanks
    Thanks very much! I now understand it clearly. Thanks for all the tips, and I'll make spina for now. I just got to Level 91 today so I guess I'll find a party on Minotaur!
     
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    Thank you for the advice! Unfortunately for now, I actually haven't made much friends yet, so I don't know someone who can make materials for me. (Something is wrong with me. Introvert.) If I find a person, it's possible he or she might require Spina from me. I just have to get richer.

    I also don't get what S7CD7CD14.777 means. It looks complicated to memorize too with all the numbers...
     
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    S = Strength CD = Critical Damage , and 777 is a short from Strength7% CD7% Attack7%
     
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    Oh my. Sorry about that. I'm new here so I don't know much about the terms in Toram. Thank you!
     
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    just a question, how to get 100% crit rate without astute buff, thanks in advance
     
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    You can achieve that through gears and personal stat allocation. ^_^
     
  12. Icy Gaze

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    Someone said to consider using OHS rather than THS. So now, I'm considering it. Do you still think it's too late to switch to a OHS? @screamingfox I know I asked too much of you for that really long reply T_T Sorry for summoning you back here.

    Do you have any ideas which equipment foe OHS? I would also appreciate any links for further research.
     
  13. screamingfox

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    Don't worry about it. I'd rather you ask questions and research than not. As far as OHS and THS goes. The builds stat wise are similar. OHS prefers more CRT since Astute provides 25% crit rate as opposed to 50% on THS. OHS can also opt for more DEX early, while only sacrificing some CDMG and a bit of stability. They're entirely interchangable otherwise. Since they're made for one character to have a offensive orientation (THS) and defensive orientation (OHS).

    Where THS and OHS can really differ are skill builds. OHS has access to several different skill builds, since they have a sub-weapon slot. Allowing for 1h-shield, 1h-dagger, 1h-arrow, 1h-knuckle, and 1h-magic device. Nobody has really tried 1h-Magic Device, but may as well mention it as well. If you don't use a sub weapon you'll have the same build to use and interchange the weapons as you see fit. While going towards sub weapons will get you more specialized towards OHS.

    So no. As long as you haven't invested heavily into a OHS + sub weapon build, you'll be able to trabsition between either weapon fine.

    I suggest sifting through the 1h section or Hybrid section and look at FU builds for stat allocation.
    Typically full str, dump into dex, and pump 35 ~ 40 into crt works fine for DPS builds. Or add some vit. Not much changes until you add sub weapons. Which may or may not change your stat priorities.

    OHS stat wise wants Atk%, Str%, Cdmg%, or atk%,crate14,crate14%,cdmg4 %~5%. And typical crit armor.

    Mmm. Don't worry, I'm introverted myself. You'll have to put yourself out there to find people though. That's by far the fastest way, and by far the most enjoyable way, unless you want to make a farm mage.

    Or join the line group in the general discussion. I'd help out with weapons but i'm never revealing myself ingame on these forums.
     
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    :O Quite mysterious. Thanks for your time replying! I've seen a build thread by Cella and I saw the OHS with knuckles build. I never thought I could use other weapons as sub-weapons! So that's what she meant by Knuckles! I hoped all the useful posts were all stickied or something :(

    I'll try my best to be friendlier! Thanks again for all your advice! :)
     
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    Mhm. No problem.

    And yeah, we've got a problem with that. The mods never set a policy for stickied threads. So useful builds and information are svattered everywhere. I'd consider making a thread with all of the resource links. But, the same problem would arise unless an active discussion is there. So it makes a thread like that pointless, unless they sticky it.
     
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    Probably they're busy? It's just really hard to scan the entire forum. All I notice is that people ask questions, create a thread, and someone answers. Doesn't matter if it's a question which has been asked before. I guess it works like this here, maybe.
     
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    about how much stat point should I put in crit and what gears and stats should I use? thanks :)
     
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    With 38CRT, Crit up lvl 10 from battle skills, Fullcrit+14 armor, Full Crit+14 wpn and Gothic Hat(Crit+15) with warmonger, You alrd have 100% Crit rate without astute.
    Here's some maths:
    3.4CRT= +1 Crit rate(Correct me if im wrong here) So 38CRT÷3.4=11Crit rate and this adds to ur base crit rate which is 25 so, 25+11=36 base crit rate
    14%Crit rate from armor and weapon=(36÷100)=2(0.36×14)=10Crit rate.
    Crit rate+14 from both armor and weapon=28Crit
    Gothic Hat(Crit rate+15)with warmonger(+6crit rate)=21Crit
    Crit up lvl 10=5Crit
    So after u add everything you would get:
    36+10+28+21+5= 100Crit rate.
     
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    a guild mate told me that every 7points in crit = 1 crit, and is s7%,cd14%,cr14,cr14% possible? I like it as my stat
     
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    Last time i checked it was 3.4CRT=+1 crit rate
    If u mean it as cd14% its not possible bcause that stats doesnt exist in the game yet but if u mean cd14 yeah u can do that stats on wpn and armor.
     

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