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Spreading awareness on storm farming spots

Discussion in 'Mage' started by Ericksson, Sep 13, 2018.

  1. Ericksson

    Ericksson Well-Known Member

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    I think it is high time we address the people who deceive higher dps characters on farm spots with “lfp storm full luk”.

    I shout at times that “luk is a personal stat and it does not affect pr drop rate” alot of peeps would shout that they didn’t know it and the luk players would react violently.

    I just feel bad for the dps chars that had to piggyback some of the leechers. (Not saying all luk players are deceivers. Had to put this disclaimer.)
     
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    lol
     
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    Does it matter i mean people have been farming like this for years they dont care everyone at famous farming spot want full luk party.
     
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    Ericksson Well-Known Member

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    Lemme ask you this. If you are farming without mutual benefit, and you are the one pulling all the weight. Would it be fair to you that you did not know what the luk stat does? Given the false pretense that luk would somehow help your drop rate?
     
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    At best it gives a placebo effect to kill more mobs. Little did they know that storms from luck mages is crappy in general but as long as they keep spinning storms, it is always a big help and not a wasted effort. It just give dps stormers more targets to easily kill anyway. So only judge them as leechers if they are just standing around and doing nothing but wait for the next bag full of goods or worst the next level.
     
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    Ericksson Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm lemme think of a more relatable situation.

    You are all trying to level up, and this one guy is not really helping. Would it be fair to you without ur consent that that person is just leechin off of your hard work?
     
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    Its all fun and games when youre the only one whos actually a dps, knowing that they are gonna be done in an hour and you are stuck for maybe half a day more.
     
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    Ericksson Well-Known Member

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    Flame me I dont care really. Im a stickler for justice. Its better that the masses know, at least they know what they are piggybacking.
     
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    If you party with luck farmer friends or guild mates, it would be fair that you be rewarded for your effort and your time. If you party with randoms, maybe it is time you have the same mind set as them and make a luck mage of your own. Even back then when we are stacking walls on top of walls a team effort even with full luck can do the job right and kill regular mobs at a decent pace.
     
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    Maybe it depends on what grind. If its a boar (bottles), NM crystals and materials farm, i think thats where luk mages trully should belong. But if its a (harder) boss/miniboss farm and a 160ish luk mages doing it, thats a leech on my book unless its for exp purposes.
     
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    Could be much worse, it could be a TEC finale leech who is clueless how to keep the aggro down and messing the attack tempo of the 3man party. They got no choice but to leech or buy exp items afterall.
     
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    Lemme tell u this farmers have like 6 sets of elemental mds refine +C or higher with 14%against elements with lvl 130+ full lk int mage and decent gear stats which make them 1shot any mob they are farming pretty much any . And btw even if ur spreading awareness and all i think no one is stupid enough to use their dps mage mage to farm summer shells nc cassy boar or any low drop mat in general. Thats why most people have 2 mages in their accounts.
     
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    Yep i guess imma give em a break too no matter how bad it sounds if its for exp farm. Even if im not expecting such members due to i assume blacksmiths got main toons and guild that can help them farm exp or help them earn spina for nm xtals to improve their new characters.
     
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    I have a round about solution on this dillema and able to grind solo with my tec hybrid. 0aggro set-up + tank pet! Usually i also grab some finale randoms to tag along (for party exp bonus) and oddly enuf i always take the attack rank since they dont know how to manage aggro at all and end up flat in the floor most of the boss run.(you can never cast finale if you are getting pommeled to the ground)
     
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    We dont use them for dps we use them to make the spawn rate faster. If you can kill all of the mobs with your storm doesnt matter if theyre not helping. Its not a big deal anyway. And as if its hard to press impact every 3 seconds or so. If youre farming plant machina difficulty then kick the weak leechers but if its just weak-ass eb boars or cassy just chill and do your thing or farm it alone.
     
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    And even if we wanna farm effectively things always dont go our way as there can be times as it get hard to find party even at boars sometimes
     
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    Theres more worse like you're a tank main relying on a friend's 2H mercenary for dps on farming mermaid ear's mats just for the +5% stats boost and getting slot for 43 tries :biblethump::biblethump::biblethump::notlikethis::notlikethis:
     
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    Sadly, a lot of people still believe that.

    I usually don't care about that when farming mats. For me it's just a waste of energy(yeah typing a 3 letter word is too much work for me :p) as it won't necessarily help you get a party more as anyone who farms, people would assume they are a luk mage anyway.

    The only time it matters is when farming Summer Shells. If you can't kill it in 1 hit then you get the boot. I usually don't invite those in parties as I would assume that they can't kill vodas in 1 hit.
     
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    Woah...

    Thanks for all the input, but wasn't trying to pick a bone with any of you. Quoting your words didn't mean debating, I was trying to drive a point.

    I'm just pointing out that I want to inform people out there who are getting conned of their hard work. That's it.

    I never said that luk farmers are bad all in all. I did not lump the decent LUK farmers with the con-artists.

    In my original post, I just wanted to let people know what the luk stat does on those spots, since there are still people out there conning people saying that "I'm full LUK, it will help your drop rate..." etc.

    I'm not here to argue, I'm here to inform the other newbies out there in this forum, in the hope to spread awareness for the people who are clueless.

    In the least that they at least know, they would have consent before trying to pull the reins by themselves.

    Believe it or not, there are only a handful of decent damaging LUK types out there.

    Been farming EBs for a while and almost half of the time, half of the party doesn't have any damage and these people tried conning me and they leave. How did I know? I pretend AFK after 3 casts, then I'd see them running around.

    Again, I'm here to inform the people that there are people like that out there. Just watch out. A lot of people want the easy way out and we worked hard for our strength in this game. They should too.
     
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    I'm sorry if I have somehow offended your intelligence with my post. And yes unfortunately, there are people out there who are "stupid" enough not to know these things as you so eloquently put it. You said it yourself that "most" people not all. Hence, this thread to spread awareness.
     
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    The stupid people are the thousands of people giving up 255 int for 255 luck
    Luck is a big mistake and a waste of time, its effects are equivalent to about a 50% drop rate book when you have 255.

    Hours spent refining, preparing, or spina spent making 6 different weapons and armors and all the rest of your hullabaloo about "the secret hard life of luck mages", all of that for +50% drop rate
    How's that for stupid?

    @Ericksson I like the point of this post, I have met far too many people who didn't know that luck is useless for the party
     
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