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The Infinite Mana Tank: Knuckle + Shield [Pure Tank Build] (Lv110 Cap)

Discussion in 'Brawler' started by Precaria, Jun 24, 2016.

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Good Tank?

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  1. _Smiling_Killer_

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    Ahh...mine does only little dmg...very high aggro...i think i have no eva xD...and i rely on aspd and cspd potions...
    And yes...also mine takes 3/4 auto attacks to refill a bar...i guess its because of the trigger at the end of the combo?...
    But all in all it is a good tanker...
    But every build is good...it just depends on your playing style right :)
     
  2. iMarche

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    any tip how to max combo faster?
     
  3. Diana de Manda

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    I love this tanker build Thank u so much Precaria senpai :) i hope senpai will return to play again :(
     
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  4. Precaria

    Precaria Precariø ♂ Retired IG Super Likable Elite Member Wiki Contributor

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    Tank finally updated/upgraded!
    * Polished the skill point distribution.
    * Incorporated new skills.
    * Modified combos.
    Infinite Breaker Combo
    The main "interruption" combo.
    Smash > Shell Break (Save) > Sonic Wave (Swift) > Assault Attack (Swift) > Shield Bash (Swift) > Heavy Smash (Cons)
    [MP cost: 100 / CP used: 8-10]
    * Only add the skill in grey if there's a heavy aggro generator on your party, if you don't have an aggro competitor then you don't need to close the combo with Heavy Smash. If adding Heavy Smash isn't enough to get aggro in your specific party then only spam the Stun-Lock Aggro Combo.

    Stun-Lock Aggro Combo
    Designed after experiencing Ultimate Gem battles. This combo is fully aggro/tanking focused. Less interruptions, highest aggro if used repeatedly.
    Sonic Wave > Guardian (Save) > Heavy Smash (Swift) > Shell Break (Cons) > Shield Cannon (Swift)
    [MP cost: 100 / CP used: 8]

    * Sonic Wave can be swapped to Shield Bash in case you want to use the Long Range Sanctuary Combo in the same battle.

    Long Range Sanctuary Combo
    Fastest and safest way to execute Sanctuary. Perfect for Guild Maze bosses and stationary-type mini/bosses.
    Sonic Wave > Sanctuary (Save) > Shield Cannon (Smite)
    [MP cost: 100 / CP used: 4]


    Non-Flinch/Non-Tumble/Non-Stun Combo
    For delicate bosses such as Nurethoth & Jade Raptor.
    Assault Attack > Guardian (Save) > Sanctuary (Cons) > Heavy Smash (Swift)
    [MP cost: 100 / CP used: 6]
     
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  5. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    You dont need to use guardian combo repeatedly since it generates infinite aggro :D only use it once per 1min 30sec at lvl10
     
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    you can't ignore the 600 aggro tho :)
     
  7. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    What do you mean? :confused:
     
  8. Souleh

    Souleh Well-Known Member

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    6mp bar skill. It has the highest aggro among all of the other skills.
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Lol i know that what i meant to say is,
    Its 100% aggro steal for any mob that enters the aura of guardian :D
     
  10. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    @Precaria
    Tbh as you havent tested guardian yourself, you kinda dont know how op the aggro boost is.
    I have had runs at bosses where i use guardian combo once then dont use any skill at all for the rest of the fight and i would still keep the aggro ^^ .
    By keeping at lvl1 it just becomes a save bait if you want to spam sanctuary.
    What i want to say is that quick draw is just not worth spending sp on anymore, the sp could be used to get guardian to lvl10 which can in turn be useful in reducing dmg to party members, also i even tested it for fatal atks. As it is infact dmg reduction, every dmg including fatal atks are reduced by it. Along with aggro gears, stuff like ampr/high mp having become not worth spending on because this skill itself does so much more.
     
  11. Joughton

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    Dear @Precaria, why did you change the "Marble Shield" to "Albero Shield", as far as I know, Marble Shield provides a better Guard Rate and a better Guard power, and the Boss drops also gives 12% aggro...Something that isn't on the Albero Shield at all.

    Please note I could be wrong; I took my information of the Albero Shield from Coryn Club.
     
  12. kujida

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    On this awesome build, and thank you by the way.
    Is it possible to do a pure vit tank / vit BS?

    Tia..
     
  13. BK

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    Its possible, my 2h dps tank build had 42sp left after all skills were done
     
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    Uhm. Sorry noob question..
    Is sp will be enough after getting all of the skills on this thread's guide?
     
  15. Joughton

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    No, I don't know how many skill points in total there are available, but I thought it was around 163, and this build costs 163 skill points...

    One of the requirements is to have all the skill points emblems, so judgng from that you could also guess you wouldn't have enough skill points for it.
     
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    Nope, but its a tank so some of these skills can be left out
     
  17. Xiavu

    Xiavu Lurking Overlord of LOVE[L.O.L.] Elite Member Epic Member

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    Just another noob question here about the guardian. I really wanna know how much guard rate it gives and also the aggro it gets. I recently capped my tank sniper and got to test a bit on the new boss. I followed ur build exept for one thing, i added guard strike passive instead of force sheild. I got caught up on one of the blue spike aoe and my guard rate kicks like crazy! With guard strike im reflecting attacks after attack like a porcupine.
    Im looking for a thread about this but found none yet. I wanna know how good the new shield skills to tank builds
     
  18. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    I have tested it but i dunno its exact increase in guard rate lets just say if,
    I guarded 42 out of 100 normal attacks without guardian
    I guarded 79 out of 100 normal attacks with guardian
    So for me it doubled the guard rate
    Its multiplicative and not flat increase because with light armor i could hardly see any difference in guard rate

    About guardians aggro yes its incredibly high coz it generates aggro/second for bosses that stand inside the aura its very tough to steal aggro from a player that uses guardian

    Overall in my opinion you shouldnt follow the skill build of prec's tank coz it was made before shield skills lvl3 were introduced
    My suggestions:-do not take quick draw, max guardian instead as the aggro generation is HUGE you dont even need mp to keep attacking
    You can also get guard strike, the dmg it does increases by guard power and refine of your shield it goes perfectly well with guardians guard rate boost
     
  19. Xiavu

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    I was thinking along that line and plan to dump QD and Voke to invest on battle skills like def up and crit up. Im just wondering about Guard Strike passive if it adds guard rate or not.
    Im also wondering about the guardrate and guardpower balance of shields and if guardian have good guardrate so i can have more guardpower on gears.
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Guard strike does not add guard rate it only gives you the ability to reflect atks that are guarded, its dmg scales by its lvl
    Though that high guard rate can be delivered by guardian, heavy armor mastery, xtas,
    The highest guard power giving shields are albero shield and relief shield which is 30%
    Relief shield gives 9% guard rate and albero shield gives 7% guard rate
    With the current cap/xtas i think we can reach around 65% guard power
    Though to increase guard strikes reflected dmg u need to have high refine on shield too, and since shields are untradeable you will need your own bs refiner
    Also one more thing battle skills are not worth it for tanking crt up only increases crt by 5 and cdmg by 5% but you dont need cdmg
    While def up is also not that useful since def is not as useful for reducing dmg than resistance
     
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