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ULTIMATE TANK BUILD - (Knuckle + Shield)

Discussion in 'Hybrid' started by Chromix, Dec 10, 2017.

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  1. Chromix

    Chromix Well-Known Member

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    First of all let me explain why i chose Knuckle+Shield instead of 1h+Shield, BG+Shield or Staff+Shield.
    There only 2 reasons why i selected it.
    1. Sonic wave, as tank u should be able to cause tumble.When u change the boss difficulty higher, the cooldown of being able to flinch the boss increase.Thats why u need a second skill to interrupt the aoe from a boss.Knuckle give u a high chance to cause tumble with sonic wave and this from up to 16m distance.Another reason is that u need to tumble some bosses to show up their break parts.
    2. Knuckle prime piercer is cheap xD

    You can cause tumble with 1h or BG but the chance to succes is low. Staff can reach 100% tumble on impact but u need to stay close to hit the boss.
    I dont like BG/Staff + Shield cuz u lose 100cr from weapon stats which makes ur skills / autos miss (Miss = No aggro generated). Some ppl. use BG to attack from 8m distance and his high aggro.Staff for recover fast mp with mp charge and tumble.But in this build you have all of this 4 aspects (High AMPR, atk from far distance, being able to tumble + High aggro).

    Your main aggro skill is Provoke, it generates 1k aggro at Lv10.With good AMPR u could spam this skill and hold aggro even vs a 100mp bow spammer with smoke.The good thing about provoke is its not affected by aggro gears which means you dont need to focus longer on aggro gears.
    You only have 1 combo, to cast guardian and warcry (WC for aggro all mobs/bosses and adding some extra dmg for ur dps pt member).
    Stun - Guardian (save) - Warcry (smited) / 100mp

    P.def will be your main skill to use in combat.I dont use sancuracy because it got kinda useless after they released p.def.The only good thing i see in it is to farm many mini bosses at same time (like EMS).But generally its useless in my opinion, most new bosses knockback you to far away that u have no choice to stay at one place.It takes to much time to cast it (sure it can get swifted) and it dont protect you from fractional dmg which the most bosses doing.And after u got hit by one/two and ur HP falls from 30k to 17-20k u need more time / revita to restore it.
    This means u dont need to focus to much on ur HP, having around 15-17k HP is optional. As well dont focus on DEF/MDEF those two stats are useless as well.Better focus on resistance gears.

    Tankers job its not just to hold aggro.You need to protect your party members! With this build you can interrupt aoes, giving others extra atk% and recover bad ailments from your party members.


    Thats it, there so many other aspects i could explain why i build this build how it is but this would take to much time haha.
    So.... if there any questions, just ask me.
    I will add active videos in this thread about this Tank.
    And sorry for my bad english :v

     
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  2. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    I doubt a provoke spammer tank can outaggro smoke shot archers but oh well its up to them to survive if they cant be bothered to learn sneak.
     
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    He has gaurdian so long as the archers are in it should be fine right? Without gaurdian he wouldnt be able to, my sniper 1mp dose 2100+ agro lmao
     
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    I had twice this situation.I only could hold aggro while using provoke every 5 sec or hold him in my guardian.But he always run away from guardian range lol So i gave him a lesson and let him get aggro xD Then he died called me noob tank and left pt
     
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    Yeah if guardian then its fine although there are some large boss maps where staying close might not be possible.

    Lol I hate those type of people they think they can spam all they want if theres a tank in the party if both tank and archer spammed it would be good but the tank also has to pdef, dodge aoes or even heal if possible cant just keep spamming endlessly with new bosses interrupts anyway they fail to realize that and keep using smoke shot. They are the reason I dont use pure tank much anymore, now I mostly use dps chars that can tank as well if someone in party cant control their aggro I let them tank and I focus on dps.
     
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  6. Zenki

    Zenki ゼンキー Elite Member

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    Playing the secondary tank while doin dps, (b'-')b
     
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    Multiple minibosses will be longer farm for a range tank. Imo meele tank got more control on muliple minibosses due to to the fact that boss will close the gap to a range tank whenever boss shifts to auto atk mode. Boss will always chase the tank that will lead to boss not compressing and may results to the not desired utilization of dps aoe skills. And for meelee, dodging skills is as easy as pivoting to its side or crossing across its back while maintaining control at the same time for compressing multiple target for any aoe skills.
    Anyway nice build.
     
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  8. Chromix

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    Hmm depend how you play.Even with a range tank u can stay close to multiple bosses.If i need to tank 4 ems at one place it would be np i think (unless dps sux so hard that it takes to long lol)Just provoke them once, stay at 1 place and spam pdef xD With that high ampr u can recover ur mp fast^^
     
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    i see so the 10 sp for range skill be useless for that part. and yes nobody can endure if dps sucks. and btw provoke only works for 1 target only u might wanna cast guardian or sneak a bstrike to maintain aggro for multiple bosses
     
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    Mostly i still auto atk from 2m anyway.But atk from 6m away can be very helpful, if theres a boss u cant tumb/flinch/stun anyway and hes causing a aoe around him u can ampr from far distance.I really saw how useful that is at last 7m dl event^^
    And about the sp, i put 15sp on survival skill which are not necessary at all for this build.I just dont know where to put them else haha
     
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    no i meant thats 19 sp used on powerwave. any meele got no problems on that boss too. atleast for my 1H+shiled that tanked 3 of them always
     
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    Thats only 13 sp and its not useless cuz on other bosses its needed.Normally u need 2 different tank builds in toram to get best out of it for each boss / miniboss
    Yeah ik it works only at one, warcry will help me at this point^^
     
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    Jbazt Into the Forsaken Realm of Consciousness Elite Member

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    oh i assumed 5mp charge, 5 chaincast, and 10 powerwave. sorry my bad
     
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    Chromix Well-Known Member

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    Np haha lv3 is enough (6m).And even if i use rarely mp charge, lv5 makes it faster so its not that a big waste
     
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    Only here for the funny af night of nights rendition there :v
    Ik I'm no help
     
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    the spina tho, rich!!!! XD
     
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    Chromix Well-Known Member

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    Its a bug, my spina 63k only @@
    Btw welcome back! ^^
     
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    Shield + Knux will/might be a build of choice for most brawlers in the near future imo.

    I mean, C.rate stat on shields is already a bonus. Adding survivability - P.Def, a low sp 90% chance rate stun skill (lv6 Shield Bash), two kinds of parry - dmg redux & dmg (Parry & Guard Strike), etc. etc.:cmonbruh:
     
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    Chromix Well-Known Member

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    Video added, Proto Leon NM + Glory Gem (No revita)
     
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    Awesome!
     
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