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WANNA BE LIKE KIRITO? THIS GUIDE'S FOR YOU! (Cypherian's Revamped Maximized AMPR Dual Wield Build)

Discussion in 'Dual Wield' started by Cypherian, Jul 26, 2016.

  1. Hemusong

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    This is the only guide I read everything in it lol even the comments. nice job bro em keep coming

    I only have one question. did you not have any problems on mp?
     
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  2. Kurokono

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    idk if this was answered on the comments, i tried reading but they are just arguing so ill just ask here. Does 100MP really gives 1ampr? thanks
     
  3. Cypherian

    Cypherian Dual Doggo! Bork bork! Super Likable Elite Member

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    Yes it gives 1ampr. AMPR you get from MP is Max MP/100 but its a fixed value and does not apply to the special double ampr that DWs get from Xtals, items and pots.
     
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    I like asuna yay :D
     
  6. Kurokono

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    Sensei, another question or clarification. On choosing a subhand sword, what do i need to consider? The refinement and element only? Or the attk included? Tried some test on lavarca using @88+C and im doing around 670-700 noncrit. Then used @7 no refine and did 500-550 noncrit. My mistake was i did not test my @88 weapon before refining. Now im broke to buy another one just to test
     
  7. Cypherian

    Cypherian Dual Doggo! Bork bork! Super Likable Elite Member

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    I honestly look at ATK and Refinement.
    I got to test a Wood Sword, a @80+B Phyo Blade and a @125+A Tomahawk.
    Even though Tomahawk has the lowest Stability, It still deals the highest damage among the three.
    My Normal Autos can do 10k to 12k damage.
    Phyto Blade let me do until 8k
    and Wood Sword til 6k only.
     
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  8. Cypherian

    Cypherian Dual Doggo! Bork bork! Super Likable Elite Member

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    I honestly havent watched the anime, blame @GyroP for the title. ._.
     
  9. Kurokono

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    Thaaaaaanks. At least i feel now that i did not waste spina
     
  10. Bullsman

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    Wow Kirito :rolleyes: nice dude
     
  11. Cypherian

    Cypherian Dual Doggo! Bork bork! Super Likable Elite Member

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    The real name is in the parentheses. I blame @GyroP for the title. That fuck.
     
  12. Bullsman

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    :D
     
  13. TheXIIIthGuy

    TheXIIIthGuy Bye bye Elite Member

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    Excuse me for going off-topic, but now I'm curious. Did you lose a bet to @GyroP and he got to name your thread? Or did you have no clue for a name, asked him one, and went: "Ah whatever, I have nothing better"?
     
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    Umm sir, from what I heard... MP Boost skill can also grant u +3AMPR at Max Lvl. So why not using that too for more AMPR?
     
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    for dw it gives +300mp and +6ampr, it will stay +6ampr even if u had trigger or s,step active
     
  16. Cypherian

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    AMPR you get from MP is not doubled. Theres a difference between Getting S.Roar and Jade. You get more AMPR from Sroar because.it is a doubled 4. Where Jade is a Doubled 1 and a +3
     
  17. BK

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    Have 1k mp and no ampr gears/xstals, u will get 20 from base and 20 from the 1k mp
     
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    I have an old vid here showing base is 20 and ampr from mp is doubled, ampr stats x2 ampr from mp is x2 and base ampr is 20, with trigger/s,step only the 20base ampr gets a further increase
     
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  19. Cypherian

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    I have 1.1k mp. When i replace PG with Moon Light and Jade with S.Roar. I get more AMPR even though i replaced the MP with AMPR stats.
     
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    Ampr on moonlight?
     
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    +3 AMPR, Which would be equivalent to the +300MP of PG. But ampr from MP isnt doubled. Unless you get modifiers fron trigger and shadow step.
     
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    Whats ur ampr through mp+ampr stats that u have equipped right now?
     
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    Because the vid i shown had the correct amounts that i calculated before i started to see if it was accurate
     
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  24. TheXIIIthGuy

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    HOLD IT!
    If you watch the video from @BK. you'll notice that he didn't use AMPR gears (correct me on this) and solely MP gears. He doesn't use Trigger at first either. Now notice the AMPR regen without Trigger. Every two autos, he regained a bar.
    Now, if the AMPR was doubled, his calculations would be correct (50 AMPR) and relevant to what happened in the vid. Now if it wasn't doubled, he would have 20 + 1500(MP)/100 = 35 AMPR. 100(MP needed for a bar)/35(MP gained through AMPR) roughly equals to 2,85. That means it would have taken 3 autos most of the time to regain one MP bar and then only 2 autos every once in a while.
    Thus we can (hopefully safely) conclude that either Asobimo tampered with AMPR again or AMPR from MP is doubled.
     
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