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Discussion in 'Dual Wield' started by Lucifere, Nov 4, 2018.

  1. Lucifere

    Lucifere Angel of Rebellion Elite Member

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    The main damage skill of tier 4 dual wielder would be like garyou and need several prerequisites.
     
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    Fheilyn Well-Known Member

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    knowing the big diffrence between kat and dual must be learned first:
    Fistly DW has wut we call 2x all sources of ampr (buffs, items, etc...) except rampage
    Kat is heavy scale class on unsheate%

    DW is going to be fine if that is the case, ever heard of flash blast , shadow step abuse spam? That does lots of dmg for little amount of mp and can already take 2 or 3 skill stacks. Also bear note that DW can go agi build, aspd to fully speed themselves while getting dmg out, while kat cant unless u know (good ol GSW). Also unlike katana, most dual have 2 key attacks , impact and spinslash, both does matk proration so dual will barely ruin proration if they spam their abilities like tomorrow. Also the gimick called auto cancelling for DW is highly present and quite nice once u get the hang of it, fast auto prorate with Mp owob.

    The real mvp question would be it scale with subhand dmg like the rest of dual skills or not, going by how garyou works.
     
  3. Quit toram

    Quit toram Left. Elite Member

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    Depends on the prerequisites. If it's gonna be like Garyou or Burst (use skills x times) it wouldn't really be a problem. But if it needs a ton of prerequisites, or the skills just plain suck, idk really. I could just stick with lv3 skills combined with lv4 sword or maybe delete it. I never had the patience to raise another character anyway, if it wasn't for lv4 DW skills.
     
  4. Lucifere

    Lucifere Angel of Rebellion Elite Member

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    Lets imagine need to be freezed. Idk phamton slash freeze rate.
     
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    Lucifere Angel of Rebellion Elite Member

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    Errrmm good story but i woukd prefer the short ver xD
     
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    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    What if the entire t4 is a skill book on maze floor 1000+ with passive abilities only?
     
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    Quit toram Left. Elite Member

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    Phantom Slash has 100% freeze rate at lv10. Shouldn't really be a problem unless there's a water ele mage spamming Javelin (I don't see any reason for this)
     
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    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    MD supporter mage helping to do dps.
     
  9. Lucifere

    Lucifere Angel of Rebellion Elite Member

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    For sure 2 will be buffs and one attack
     
  10. Lucifere

    Lucifere Angel of Rebellion Elite Member

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    Troll duals and keep with Finale online xD How much time have to freeze one enemy again
     
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    attack skill - Seven Swords Dance:
    a 7 hit attack with some special effect

    buff skill 1 - Unlimited Blade Works:
    double he number of hits, similar to Amazing Throw. but it's an active buff, with cast time and duration.

    buff skill 2 - Projection:
    passive skill, enhances Flash Blast
     
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    Quit toram Left. Elite Member

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    You start with 2 swords, how could you suddenly get 5 more? Or is it just moving so fast it creates the illusion of having 7 swords? Or maybe just a normal 7 hit skill?

    Also, no. Please not Flash blast. People will abuse it and ruin proration if they buff Flash blast (at least the ones who doesn't know how to prorate)

    Wouldn't it be too OP if you have a chance to double your hits? Imagine PS with 24 hits xD
     
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    Red_Fox Internet Pirate Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    didn't think about that :p
    my first idea was Star Burst Stream, but i didn't want to spark the Kirito hype.
    (and technically, Star Burst Stream could be made by combining already existing skills)
    3 hits with each sword and the 7th with both, because it's the finisher.
     
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    WindSlash Guardian Angel of Picos Elite Member

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    What I want is a long range skill. :V

    Sword Boomerang: Strikes all targets twice. 1st when the sword strikes on the intial throw. And then a 2nd time when it comes back to user. If first strike misses, 2nd strike becomes stronger when 1st strike misses; If 1st strike hits, 2nd strike becomes weaker.
    Restrictions: One-Handed Swords/Dual Sword
    Dual Wield Bonus: You have two 1h swords. Each sword can strike twice.

    Imagines a new build: Berserk Baker
    Cake Knife+Cake Shield. Throws Cake Knife(sword boomerang). Throws Cake Shield(shield cannon).
    Throws Life (Regretless).

    LET'S DO THIIIIISSSSS
     
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    What are the chances that the new tier 4 dw skill will be based on unsheathe? :x
     
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    Dw for me is more like a breaker role. So maybe tier 4 might got something to do with aspd and cspd without the negatives and maybe a skill that will make auto atk trigger something like a magic that will inflict ailments base on the weapon/sub.
     
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    Next dw skill should be an unsheathe burst skill. They need to do it or else DW will suck big time because godspeed's +25% unsheathe and flash blast buff's +10% unsheathe will still remain isolated towards charging slash skill only. If they don't release any unsheathe burst skill, they badly need to revamp the godspeed and fb buff.
     
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    Kaejuda Well-Known Member

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    well,so far most tier 4 skills has some drawbacks on them.

    Meteor - The mp cost
    Finale - The cast time
    Crossfire - The charge time/getting hit
    Tenryu - The skill stack
    D. Tooth - The mp cost/no bonus power
    Chariot - The mp cost/charge time/lack of power.
    Garyou - The mp cost/skill stack/critical rate

    dw should have some drawback when using tier 4 skill too probably.

    (also what they did to chariot and garyou is disgusting,when will they even balance them back.)
     
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    Quit toram Left. Elite Member

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    Yeah, kinda makes sense to make lv4 skills unsheathe since there are 2 skills in DW tree alone that increases unsheathe atk. Well, hopefully, whatever they do won't suck.
    MP costs shouldn't really be a problem since we have Impact. It shouldn't be a problem at all for DW because they have double AMPR and they can use Impact too. Hopefully the drawbacks wouldn't be bad though.
     
  20. Lucifere

    Lucifere Angel of Rebellion Elite Member

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    Odelon crystal full equipment with dw c:
     

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