1. Welcome to the Toram Online Forums. Please make sure to read our rules and be friendly to all our members.
    Click here to read the rules before posting.
    Dismiss Notice

Maintenance Notice (2/21/2019) - free resets blahblah

Discussion in 'Toram Online News & Announcements' started by Red_Fox, Feb 20, 2019.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Lenwok

    Lenwok Elite Member Elite Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2017
    Messages:
    1,170
    Likes Received:
    509
    IGN:
    Lenwok
    Thanks @Ainred . Would you mind providing a simple working example of this with popular/standard gear?
     
  2. Red_Fox

    Red_Fox Internet Pirate Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2015
    Messages:
    6,055
    Likes Received:
    3,278
    IGN:
    Red_Fox
    0.6% with spellburst lv10?
     
  3. Ainred

    Ainred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2016
    Messages:
    311
    Likes Received:
    365
    IGN:
    Ainred
    If we have lvl 10 SB and just base of 25 CR then :
    (25 (25 * 0.01)) = 6.25-> 6% MCR
     
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  4. Red_Fox

    Red_Fox Internet Pirate Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2015
    Messages:
    6,055
    Likes Received:
    3,278
    IGN:
    Red_Fox
    and how is the critical damage? :3
     
  5. Ainred

    Ainred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2016
    Messages:
    311
    Likes Received:
    365
    IGN:
    Ainred
    That I'm still working on, atleast i could say it took a hit. It's hard for me' wee' brain cuz it has 3 variables with different variations and the order is just spaghetti. I'll get into it tho....maybe
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  6. Lenwok

    Lenwok Elite Member Elite Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2017
    Messages:
    1,170
    Likes Received:
    509
    IGN:
    Lenwok
    Ok, you had 100 crit + lvl 10 SB + weakness ailment, your MCR would be... 75%?
    So if your build had 140 crit, then MCR would be over 100%... Hmmmmm
    I can't try yet as I sill haven't capped my 1st char... but anyways thanks!!!
     
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  7. Ainred

    Ainred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2016
    Messages:
    311
    Likes Received:
    365
    IGN:
    Ainred
    >I can't try yet as I sill haven't capped my 1st char... but anyways thanks!!!
    I know the pain
     
  8. Ainred

    Ainred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2016
    Messages:
    311
    Likes Received:
    365
    IGN:
    Ainred
    I think I got it now, (sorry if it's seems very convoluted because it's easier for me to understand stuff in steps rather than in one go)
    Magic critical damage/ MCD
    Critical Damage/ CD = base, STR, skill and equipment (total of the normal critical damage formula)

    num = CD - 100

    ONLY If the enemy has weaken ailment, lets call it variable A :
    A = num * 0.5

    Spell Burst effect, lets call it variable B :
    SB = Rounded down ( Skill lvl * 2.5 )
    B= (num * SB) * 0.01

    MCD = Rounded down (100 + A + B)

    An example would be with the base CD and lvl 10 Spell burst-
    without weaken:
    num = 150 - 100 = 50
    B = (50 * 25) * 0.01 = 12.5
    MCD = 100 + 12.5 = 112.5-> 112%
    with weaken :
    A = 50 * 0.5 = 25
    MCD = 100 + 25 + 12.5 = 137.5 -> 137%

    And finally, my verdict = bad, very bad tbh. So without any thing and without weaken we have
    a 6% chance to increase the dmg by 12% in exchange in a total of 30 sp, while it could someone work if were already in higher caps and if someone were to already get magic up and increased energy it would be still rare considering how a measly a 70+ ish matk can increase finale's dmg which is barely anything. Weaken is a hassle and Brave aura is still cheaper and stronger.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Winner Winner x 1
  9. Obrskn

    Obrskn Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2018
    Messages:
    475
    Likes Received:
    125
    :(
     
  10. Red_Fox

    Red_Fox Internet Pirate Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2015
    Messages:
    6,055
    Likes Received:
    3,278
    IGN:
    Red_Fox
    so Concentrate is better than Spellburst for damage.
    on the other hand, Concentrate only works on Javelin, Blast, Impact, Burst, Punish Ray, Holy Light, Ether Flare and Element Slash, while Spellburst works on every magic attack and stacks with Concentrate.
     
  11. Obrskn

    Obrskn Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2018
    Messages:
    475
    Likes Received:
    125
    Magic blast and burst are more suitable for farming high level mobs because they are boosted by concentrate, don't you think?
     
  12. TokiXKiru

    TokiXKiru Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2015
    Messages:
    571
    Likes Received:
    1,280
    IGN:
    CryWolf
    Brain implodes from calculations
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  13. Isra

    Isra Cock and Ball Torture Elite Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2016
    Messages:
    2,023
    Likes Received:
    2,360
    IGN:
    Vani Lla
    Glad to know Asobimo hyped us up just to give us garbage. Again. TBH what'd we really expect?
     
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  14. Milkshake

    Milkshake Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2017
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    474
    I swear, I spent 15 minutes on one of the new maps because I was genuinely lost.
    Mobs attacked me as I ran around the map, so it was frustrating.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  15. J.D.X.

    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2015
    Messages:
    2,012
    Likes Received:
    1,348
    A reacuring theme, so I expected nothing ....
    Yet still somehow got disappointed...o_O

    Well, at least the new boss gear looks good....
     
    • Sad Sad x 1
  16. Red_Fox

    Red_Fox Internet Pirate Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2015
    Messages:
    6,055
    Likes Received:
    3,278
    IGN:
    Red_Fox
    was it really asobimo who hyped us, or was it some forumers who told how great something was in iruna? :p
     
  17. Isra

    Isra Cock and Ball Torture Elite Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2016
    Messages:
    2,023
    Likes Received:
    2,360
    IGN:
    Vani Lla
    Both
     
  18. Yunan

    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2016
    Messages:
    2,109
    Likes Received:
    2,083
    IGN:
    Yunananan
    With weaken doesn't the damage look somewhat doable? Once we have the minstrel skill tree a magic blade debuffer/support might be working well with a conventional finale mage in a party
     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2019
  19. Ainred

    Ainred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2016
    Messages:
    311
    Likes Received:
    365
    IGN:
    Ainred
    Weaken only lasts 5 seconds, you need precision and very good teamwork to do that consistently.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  20. Yunan

    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2016
    Messages:
    2,109
    Likes Received:
    2,083
    IGN:
    Yunananan
    How long is weaken cooldown?
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page