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Maintenance Notice (2/21/2019) - free resets blahblah

Discussion in 'Toram Online News & Announcements' started by Red_Fox, Feb 20, 2019.

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  1. Yunan

    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    Mainly because we have a limited time resets here, nothing to lose aside from magic blade book if you want to try it out with element slash
     
  2. Jbazt

    Jbazt Into the Forsaken Realm of Consciousness Elite Member

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    tried to mess up with my HB with this new free reset on search for a better MP management. i dunno if that effect is there before but i tried HB chronos sphere, i noticed that every time buff activated, looks like it increases natural MP regen so great my MP crawls and its very noticeable and it kinda solves my HB ampr problem so im very pleased with it. maybe theres something they changed on the rebalanced? or if its already there then shame on me on not trying it before
     
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    PutuKarma Well-Known Member

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    You know, the description on the official page said that everytime the additional damage (from chronos) occured, it would restore a bit of MP, so instead natural regen i think it will be more like decoy which grant AMPR everytime the damage occured, tho since you're the one who actually used the skill, maybe you're right that it grant MP based on natural MP regen
     
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    Jbazt Into the Forsaken Realm of Consciousness Elite Member

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    Yes I know. But I didn't knew that it can solve my problem on ampr. Maybe because of the other skills I paired it with I never had any mp management on my HB anymore. Before 1k mp but bad ampr. Now 1k sometimes going 700mp but I never run out of mp I can use.
     
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    PutuKarma Well-Known Member

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    mind to explain if you know?
    I'd seen Arewzo video about spellburst, (let's say he what he said about his stat is right) he said that have 168 crit rate and have been using weaken and it still able to give white damage, does spell burst and weaken crit rate didn't stack ?
     
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    It just adds but it is strange that it's over 100 MCR at that point. After Shirohito's tests it really became more hard to tell if you need the advantage element for the main weapon to get the weaken MCR bonus. So far this is what the code says, I'll just test it on my own when i get my hands on spell burst.
     
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    Lucifere Angel of Rebellion Elite Member

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    Not enought a falken angel can tear ur crow wings off xD
     
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    I just tested some parts of it myself and got some results, and it's weird alright.
     
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    @Ainred, do you think it is possible the mcr will change once they straighten the bug out that is going on with the weaken element? I see it in their big notes and was thinking when they put in the t4 abilities they missed things that should be relevant.

    Kind of unusual for them I guess but I’m just thinking it’s a possibility. :confused:
     
  10. Red_Fox

    Red_Fox Internet Pirate Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    - Under certain conditions, critical hit of magic attacks does not happen to monsters with a “weaken” status.

    ^ that would explain why finale and element slash won't crit with weaken, but with spellburst. after all, one is a placed skill and the other is not. so Concentrate's conditions don't apply to magic crit.
     
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    Ainred Well-Known Member

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    oh wait, there's a bug?
     
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    Ainred Well-Known Member

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    just checked the site, big oof
     
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    Does anyone know how much Chronos regens per additional hit
     
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    I was the pure tank MTL - VIT.
    I can to say that exist anyone ailment that generate boost of MCR in the enemies, for example was in the new boss and recently when I was in Seraph Machina Mass kill, I used Impact and this hit was critical hit in each seraph machina, is possible to say is a bug.
     
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    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    Wanna be my fallen angel?
     
  16. PutuKarma

    PutuKarma Well-Known Member

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    So, i've been testing Magic Crit with this build, ̶i̶t̶ ̶s̶e̶e̶m̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶w̶e̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶a̶p̶p̶l̶y̶ ̶C̶D̶M̶ ̶f̶r̶o̶m̶ ̶w̶e̶a̶k̶e̶n̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶s̶p̶e̶l̶l̶ ̶b̶u̶r̶s̶t̶ ̶a̶d̶d̶i̶t̶i̶v̶e̶l̶y̶ ̶(̶t̶e̶s̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶u̶s̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶M̶a̶g̶i̶c̶:̶ ̶B̶u̶r̶s̶t̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶a̶b̶l̶e̶ ̶d̶e̶a̶l̶t̶ ̶a̶r̶o̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶1̶7̶7̶k̶ ̶d̶a̶m̶a̶g̶e̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶s̶m̶i̶t̶e̶ ̶w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶i̶m̶p̶o̶s̶i̶b̶l̶e̶ ̶i̶f̶ ̶o̶n̶l̶y̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶C̶D̶M̶ ̶c̶a̶l̶c̶u̶l̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶b̶e̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶u̶s̶e̶d̶.̶)̶, unlike MCR that somehow giving white number (which might be a bug that's been confirmed by aso) eventhough i've been using weaken with 210 crit rate (185 + 25 from astute)
    tho t
    let's see how aso will fix the MCR

    note : MATK for testing is 2157
    edit 3: after testing without spell burst and with spell burst, i'm confidence that CDM from spell burst and weaken stacked since the damage dealt without spell burst is far from 170k. will do the video later
    edit 2: thanks to magic stability capped at 90%, my confidence is gone when i forgot to add long range passive in the assumed damage calculation
    edit :

    i've been testing this combo pretty decent amount, and it felt like as if the the chance around 70-80. I assume that the current formula if weaken and spellburst (if both lv10) active is

    [CR *(SB% *(1+WEAKEN%))]
    [210 *(0.25 *(1+0.5)] (crit rate 210 with astute)

    making my build MCR which is when the video is shown around 78
     
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  17. Koritsuku

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    then it will not be played until further notice? .and I think that in that I lost my character completely ewe, I will wait anxiously because I loved the game
     
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