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About the new evasion system

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by -Kazuki-, Apr 16, 2020.

  1. MyLastDreams

    MyLastDreams Well-Known Member

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    Imo they just need to lower the numbers across board. Having 12 charges with a 1.1 second recharge is overdoing it.
     
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  2. The Lost One

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    adding skills and equipment with recharge % will make it even more less than a second.
     
  3. Yunan

    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    Skills like tenryuu can deal something like 100k a slash=400k per tenryuu, dragon tooth could do 800k, meteor break can do 1million, Goliath is just cute in comparison, really. No need to nerf. That charge time is actually its own liability compared to the other spammable skills.


    And regarding evasion, it doesn't give you iframe, it only cancels one auto attack, and adds multidirectional backsteo-like skill. Whats broken is the guard system, you can reducr the damage taken to only 1, anyone with heavy armor can do it, and the recharge time is pretty quick, unless you use gsw, you can survive most aoes. Just get something like 50% resistance from food buff and aegis/protection. That 50 base guard counter can be used to nullify up to 50k damage. Its basically like magic/physical/fract barrier but you don't use them up all at once, and thats 50k worth barrier. Skills like stone barrier is pale in comparison.
     
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  4. -Kazuki-

    -Kazuki- Well-Known Member

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    Now that you compare golitah with those skills, I can now see why it stays the way it is
     
  5. 《《MiLo》》

    《《MiLo》》 Well-Known Member

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    50 guard counter is 5k, not 50k
    It regenerates though
     
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    From what I tested out from evasion, there been few things I confirm:
    • They do a good nerf against decoy, which is actually expected before
    • Though they are good for melee user, range user don't benefit much
    • Flashblast + evasion? Wtf, is this new farming skill? The charge time is insanely fast when gsw + reflex on even with full evasion spam. Are we going to have dw as new farming class? :V
    • Using evasion in high motion is still kind of broken, skill doesn't respond that well or just me lagging?
    • Compare to old evasion, it is a nerf for 75% auto and no AoE
     
  7. 《《MiLo》》

    《《MiLo》》 Well-Known Member

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    What's it about decoy?

    There's simply too little time between actions in high motion skills, nothing new abt that problem

    I don't see why it's a nerf though, that max 75% evasion cannot evade all aoe, only some very specific ones.
     
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    RokuMLG Well-Known Member

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    Cause most of boss doesn't need much use of decoy. The evasion just make it easier to gain MP with shukuchi

    It's a buff for manual use, but player with 75% auto evade before, now got nerfed.
     
  9. 《《MiLo》》

    《《MiLo》》 Well-Known Member

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    You can still choose to have evasion as passive, it works like before's evasion I think

    Decoy's advantage against shukuchi is that when you spam impact combo, decoy is still apmr-ing
     
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    No, the passive before still allow to evade some AoE and no cooldown for evade during combo. Also doesn't have limit charge so u can keep evade against multi-hit attack.
     
  11. 《《MiLo》》

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    I said this somewhere else, the aoe types you can evade is really limitted, like you can only flex at masked warrior...
     
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    You can check with other 75% evade player, the new auto evade can clearly feel as a nerf. Even the AoE can be evaded is limited, it is still "some" AoE can be evaded.
     
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  13. 《《MiLo》》

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    Have you tried leaving evasion as passive? I haven't so Idk if it's like before or what
    But from my exp, the evadable aoes are small enough to manually do, and they aren't continuous
     
  14. cloud777

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    i want to ask about mirage evasion,
    does that skill work for skills like decoy,sanctuary,etc.
    and i heard mirage evasion doesnt work for skill animation. so its mean that i cant eva while using skill like enchant sword.
     
  15. 《《MiLo》》

    《《MiLo》》 Well-Known Member

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    Since decoy has charge time, I think it does
    Sanctuary has no charge time though, so no
     
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    none. the old system is gone.
    if you set it to auto, it will activate without your input, but not against bullet, bowling and single attacks. (must use manual to avoid them).

    evasion is only availble during movement and gets disabled when you have the slow ailment.
    auto-mode will activate when you move while inside an attack warning area and there is no attack warning in the direction you are about to move to.
     
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    Its 50k, 1 counter is used for every 1k
     
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    It works with decoy i tested it out personally, but in my opinion it's not worth it. The cool down time is so long before you can dodge again while casting/charging even at level ten. The only thing good about this new system is i got lots of free skill points back because i no longer need those evasion cool down skills. I still much prefer the old system with 75% evasion T.T rip too bad, gotta make due i guess.
     
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    Just as a heads up right here. Mardula gsw solos were possible before and were done by many people
     
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  20. Phoenix。

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    You have exactly 1 recharge with that time. Every single one after that will gradually increase in time
     
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