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Dual Sword Simplified 101: Basic Stats, Skills, Mechanics, and Playstyles [Updated 6/8/22]

Discussion in 'Dual Wield' started by Hiame, Feb 10, 2020.

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Was this simple enough to understand? :D

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  2. Yes! Simple, easy, and informative! :D

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  1. Riskiye

    Riskiye Active Member

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    I want to ask this for a while, do you recommend using berserk for the crit and attack speed in exchange for stability? Thank you.
     
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  2. Hiame

    Hiame Bootleg Dual Wielder || Virtual Creator Super Likable

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    Good Question...
    The thing about berserk is that the skill's -stability only affects the main hand. So it affects your overall dmg but nothing significant. Use it with rampage and quick aura. The ASPD is decently worth it while the crit rate it depends on your gear. At this point in the game gears can cover your crit rate easily.

    To my knowledge there is crit resistance but as I haven't been playing lately I'm not sure if cri res is now more common amongst bosses/mobs etc.

    TLDR: Yes it barely affects stability that matters (your sub-hand stability is what matters the most).
     
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    Oh, thank you! About no decoy, is it viable? Sorry for all the questions.
     
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  4. Hiame

    Hiame Bootleg Dual Wielder || Virtual Creator Super Likable

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    Good Question...
    No worries feel to ask. I'm surprised there's not a lot of people asking questions tbh.

    My stance on Decoy won't change. If you want it to get it. Is it viable ofc b.c it's useful. With the level cap currently, you have more than enough to get decoy alongside rampage+berserk and other skills if you want to try different things.

    Powerwave Decoy was a fun build. Not sure if that's still an ongoing thing but there's that to look forward to if you plan to utilize decoy more effectively besides just knowing the boss patterns and placing decoy down when the time is right.
     
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  6. Hiame

    Hiame Bootleg Dual Wielder || Virtual Creator Super Likable

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    Good Question...
    You're welcome :3
     
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  7. Hiame

    Hiame Bootleg Dual Wielder || Virtual Creator Super Likable

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    Good Question...
    [Outdated]
    Added Reg stuff from @Phoenix。
    Feel free to comment more things if you guys want this updated and I'll add to it.

    I don't play this game often anymore so I'll only add things beneficial or new to the overall guide.
     
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    Anyone knows if shining cross multiplier from agi is based only on base agi(Stat distri) or total agi? tyia
     
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    USUALLY, things that based on stat will only be affected by the base stat itself. There's barely any skill that got affected by the total stat
     
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    Can we do AAC using rampage but without using heavy Armor ?
     
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    Hiame Bootleg Dual Wielder || Virtual Creator Super Likable

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    Good Question...
    Long as your ASPD is anywhere from 6k-10k
    You can AAC with Rampage.
    It's easier to AAC with higher aspd/motion speed. It's just all about timing
     
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    I have a question.
    Do i change my add gear to 1 slot gladiator helmet or stay using 2slot snowman in the head. I dont have enough spina for 2slot gladiator helmet
     
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    Hiame Bootleg Dual Wielder || Virtual Creator Super Likable

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    Good Question...
    Personally, I'd just keep the 2S slot.
    If you need more crit switch tho. Tho at this point... you can basically get anywhere from 70-80 cr easily with armors. Note I haven't touched the game in years
    You can never go wrong with more stability since stability from gears outside of weapon xtals, affect sub-hand stability.
    Other than that personal preference and what you want to build.
     
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    Hiame Bootleg Dual Wielder || Virtual Creator Super Likable

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    Good Question...
    Added Auto Attack Guard Cancel
    Reworded/revised some things
    Added Old Videos
     
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    Hiame Bootleg Dual Wielder || Virtual Creator Super Likable

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    Good Question...
    I received a question regarding building sub-hand stability from @Patrona
    "Is there a cap for stability?"
    To my knowledge, which should be outdated as I don't play the game much anymore, it should work similarly to regular stability just it's calculated differently for the sub hand i.e str/agil. Specifically for DW's sub-hand stability not shield dagger etc. stability.
    So 100 stab should be the theoretical cap but you can go higher like having your crit-rate over 100 since crit resistance is a thing.
    If you want to build for sub hand go for it. Just make sure you balance out your HIT since while crit overrides the need for HIT/Dex, stability will even out your lower end dmg on that crit dmg. Subhand stab will just increase your overall DW skill dmg.


    And for those trying to join the DW International Line Group. It died out. Or you'll be invited to a new one from someone or persons who decided to make a new group.

    Other than that. No new real added info for the guide.
     
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    Hiame Bootleg Dual Wielder || Virtual Creator Super Likable

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    Good Question...
    Edited Skills
    Added Note regarding no Data Miners are active for this Forum, alongside Skill Formulas are/may be outdated.
    Will new formulas up to date come in? Probably not. Search somewhere else.
    To my knowledge of active players with knowledge on skills @Red_Fox
    Should have more up-to-date things than me.
     
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    Hiame Bootleg Dual Wielder || Virtual Creator Super Likable

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    Tier 5 Wip

    Current PLans Leveling Main DW first to 250 then updating this guide
     
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    Got notification from email, i already quit for years but sure would be nice to know what's new
     
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    Hiame Bootleg Dual Wielder || Virtual Creator Super Likable

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    Good Question...
    Honestly I only came back for T5 and a few Old Players.

    Just asking around discords not much changed other than certain skills like CS being unsheathed now which is weird,
    Nothing else really changed.
    For Dual Sword/Wield anyways. I don't follow anything else other than say like wondering what's the current "meta"
    i.e last I was active was when the classes went in this order

    CF > DS/HB/2H > Mage (If not 2S or elm gear)

    but yee I'll get to the infos when i test or someone is willing to share the exact formulas.

    While this guide is STILL RELIABLE the data could be a bit outdated but it gives you a general idea of the class stilll
    Easy to understand for returnees newcomers or just peeps who want to read
     
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    Hiame Bootleg Dual Wielder || Virtual Creator Super Likable

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    Good Question...
    Added more details in sub-hand stability

    I realized I never saved adding the sub hand and dual sword skill dmg stuff so sorry.

    My main goal of this guide is to keep things simple and informative but not be overly relying on the formulas.
    Why? because the devs change formulas and small little things that arent' announced.
    Anyways enjoy
     
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