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Ryuha - Berzk Blade! 狂刀流 - 2h Spammer

Discussion in 'Warrior' started by Saphos, Feb 27, 2016.

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  1. Saphos

    Saphos Old Sword Nerd Elite Member

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    Updated guide with Crit set up and explanation. With all the SP obtainable at 95 cap, a 2h spammer can maintain maximum crit rate as long as MP is available ^^
     
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    I soloed Wolf mini boss. It's tougher and burned more revs as I can't dodge its aoe. The dash which is its lethal move is slower and avoidable. Maybe you can give me tips with less revs used.
     
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    Saphos Old Sword Nerd Elite Member

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    I will try and let you know ^^

    Right now, I'm camping at new boss until I get the armor. I want it!!!! ^^
     
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    Spiral Air or TKick stronger? and is the aggro high? you update the build Saphos? it's pretty nice build :)

    Anyway if we use magic wave passive skill to normal attack long distance, at wave level 10 has damage reduction? is it a nice idea?
     
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    TK is stronger than Spiral. @PhongTom has a guide about using TK for this spam build which is linked in the guide. The DPS between TK and DPS build is minimal, about 7% difference on paper. Aggro for this build was very high at time this build was introduced. Now we have higher aggro builds such as gun fu and phantom DW, this build now takes a back seat in tanking and can focus on breaking and DPS, which is great (for me). But nonetheless, this build remains a buffer should the tank lose aggro. If aggro falls on us, the party is still kept relatively safe as 2h spams has enough interrupting skills to remain self-sufficient.

    This is my main, so I'll keep this guide updated. 2h sword is what I started the game with and has become my favorite weapon ^^

    Thanks for the compliment. Coming from a seasoned swordsman like yourself, this means a lot ^^

    Magic wave at lvl 10 gives 2h 10m range on normal attacks at 40% damage reduction. However, is totally not necessary for this build. As mentioned in the revised guide, this build focus on flow. It requires the first Astute buff to buff the second Astute so we can continue spamming at 95% crit rate. In situations where the target is far away, it's better to use that 2 seconds to chase target down to continue spamming rather than use that 2 seconds to do a normal hit for proration. Nurethoth is a good example here ^^

    Hope this helps ^^
     
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    Niceee ><)/ magic impact in end combo to half astute mp cost.. Perfect! i should try this kind of idea somewherw ><)/
     
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    Updated equipment section to include:
    NPC Fortis blade <Pillar Golem> 18% physical pierce
    Boss Outer World Armor <Roga>

    I went heavy mod for the looks and minimal increase in Mdef to accommodate the armors stats. For spam builds, since you will only be doing 1 normal attack in between spams at max, Aspd does not matter to us. Yet another stat we can afford to ignore ^^
     
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    Made a test with the outerworld armor last night. It gives higher dmg than ooze armor. Didn't go for heavy tho. I need aspd to recover mp quickly for longer fights.
     
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    Get Sober analysis when SP is available ^^

    If you are talking about nightmare mode long fights, do more autos in between and time it with Astute. try to land second Astute before buff runs out.
     
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    Yes 3 auto can gain 1 bar. Sober analysis now nerfed tho.
     
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    Unfortunately, yes. And we dont have much alternatives. I'm hesitant to invest in Aspd gear as additional gear slot is occupied...
     
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    Is it okay if I don't pink sword technique skill for smash skill(Battle skill not from knuckle tree skill) and what the different between them?
     
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    Smash from battle is a low chance random boost to your physical skill damage. Sword technique is a constant 10% boost.

    It's perfectly fine if you picked Smash first, since it's necessary to get Crit up.

    Just pick up Sword Tech later when SP is available.
     
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    Well I think we don't need War Helm...
    Say we have +10 crit both armor and sword and crit up level 10 (+5crit)
    We got 20 crit from equip, 5crit from crit up, 25 base crit, 50 crit from astute, we already got 100 crit... We don't need warmoeger xtal too

    So I suggest Dragon Ears with Yelb Xtal or Golden Skelaton for Add :)

    Plus i think it's possible to change tempest to roar's cry
    Second combo : Roar's Cry -> Sonic Blade (safe) -> Impact (Swift)

    Yes it's lower dps but... We can steal support rank~
     
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    Using Warhelm <Warmonger>, I can take care of all crit rate need with 1 equipment slot, so I cam free to use elemental blades that gives 20% elemental bonus, or fortis NPC <Pillar golem> that gives 18% physical pierce. I don't know about the new gears after update (4 stat), but c999s don't give you 20% bonus.

    War cry is also not in scope, because it is a huge waste of time for spam builds. By the time we finished crying, almost 2 combos could have been executed. That's a big loss in securing attacker / breaker rank. You can say, it's not that much slower than the Tempest combo, but if you partied with a 2h spammer, you can see that we actually don't use the second combo as much. In the DPS build, I actually dropped the second combo already ^^

    That's why I felt that Berzk Blade suits these builds even though we don't use Rampage. The mindset for these builds, you gotta role play a bit here... Is somewhat like a lazy 'ole drunk dude who is skilled with a gigantic blade ^^ he doesn't think too much (more like he can't ^^) and he doesn't care ^^ he uses his blade the simplest and most effective way, all he cares is getting the job done as soon as possible so he can resume drinking ^^

    If you can understand that, you will get the essense of this build lol
     
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    But now with new smith skill we can make elemental crit weapon...
    And war cry cast is actually fast.. As fast as flex... Half combo time only mayble less.. Not 2 combo lol
     
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    Unless they changed it. Last time I cried it took 3 seconds. Let's pt some time so you can see it in action ^^
     
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    I think this combo may work better in set 2:
    Tempest > Warcry (save) > Hard Hit/ Smash / Sonic Wave > Impact (200MP total)
    Because Warcry is non-target skill, sometimes you may lose your combo if you don't target first
     
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    I know what you mean now ^^

    Well, if possible, I'd want element + atk 5% + C-dmg 10 if it's doable...

    But that X 6 elements, will be too expensive ^^
     
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    Can I ask...
    Which combo is better :
    1. Astute -> hard hit (cons) -> Trigger (cons) -> Spiral (cons) -> Tempest (cons) -> Impact (cons)
    2. Astute -> hard hit (cons) -> Trigger (cons) -> Spiral (cons) -> Impact (cons)
    3. Asture -> Trigger (Safe) -> Spiral (smith) -> impact (cons)
    Which one gives more DPS in terms of damage and motion time :/
     

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