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dagger skill update (26.1.17)

Discussion in 'Secondary Trees' started by Red_Fox, Jan 26, 2017.

  1. Red_Fox

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    so some dagger skills got an upgrade now.

    Spike Dart now does more damage with DEX.
    my Illusionist has Spike Dart but no DEX (yet), but the skill damage didn't get lower.
    so i guess the damage is the same as usual with the addition of a bonus for DEX.

    Poison Knife now does more damage with INT.
    none of my current characters has Poison Knife, so i can't try it (yet).
    the old formula did 1x atk damage (with dagger instead of main weapon) for the knife hit and poison damage used 0,5DEX+0,01atk.
    now the questions is, whether INT only affects the knife damage or the poison damage as well...
    Edit: poison damage is as usual, but INT greatly affects knife damage ;)

    Gatling Knife now does more damage with STR/AGI/DEX.
    well, this is probably the same as Spike Dart.
    and 1h sword/bowgun/halberd with STR, AGI and DEX benefit most from it.
     
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    Don't forget halberd they have stat growth on STR and agi
     
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    added =(^.^)=

    and: the mystery of poison is solved :)
    poison damage is 50%DEX + 1%atk as usual, but the skill damage is greatly boosted by INT now.
    i used my newest skill point for it, and on lv1 it's already as strong as an auto-attack.
    this used to be the case for lv10 before the update.
     
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    With these new buffs would full dagger build be viable( in comparison with underdog classes like agi brawler and DW)
     
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    Gatling can already hit almost as much as tempest from a 2h tho that was before todays update, now it may hit the same as it
     
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    Does long range mastery boost dagger skills???
     
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    Rip 2h; though I'll continue playing it; not saying 2h is dead, but other classes are rapidly catching up :rolleyes:
     
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    It does but dunno if it does on gatling
     
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    Late game classes are starting to gain steam but IMO their is no clear definitive best DPS class so that's a good thing
     
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    Right now I'm conflicted between build BG dagger build vs 1h dagger.
    Bowgun has high atk long range and dex to gain bonus with spike but 1h has motion speed crit rate & cdmg I can't decide

    Has anyone tested if STR agi and dex give same bonuses for Gatling
     
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    imo Halberd for the win though :rolleyes::p
     
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    staff/dagger with gatling for high crit and damage? Thoughts?
     
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    I feel staff will start to fall off because it's second offensive stat only works with poison knife but might be alright
     
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    Im working with full str staff gattling knife so I'll see how it turns out.
     
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    I have a full DEX bowgun gatling in progress too, so we can kinda compare
     
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    Gatling and Spike both work well on full DEX (theoretically) so, NICE IDEA
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    Halberd gatling anyone?

    Also since Gatling gets an atk boost of AGI; it might be useful for a brawler as well, what do you think @RyeUshio ? :D
     
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    Gatling is just too slow to me. It kinda irks me that spike dart throws multiple daggers (up to 6) at about the same time while gatling throws the (8 or 10?) for much longer...(can't just like throw it in 2 sets of 5?). Maybe for ranged classes, but other wise, I wouldn't use as a brawler unless I wasn't squishy. Halberd...maybe? Just maybe.
     
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    In all honesty, gatling isn't really that slow...storm has around the same time for a cast, including cast time and animation, albeit for more dps, but things may be different now. Oh, and that's a bonus of 1hs gatling, you can use trigger to make a speedy gatling
     
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    Confirmed longer range mastery works on dagger Gatling
     

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