Is it normal to kick spammer from party?

Doing Auto attack isn't considered as spam

 

just gather aggro then stop and prorate. thats why its important to have aggro gears and skills

 

Just new in this game and thanks for this. I am guilty spamming my combos. Just need time to fully understand the mechanics of the game.

 

I have experienced many spammer from time to time in parties, and if it is very bad i just leave and find another party. The real annoying thing about spammers is that they make the boss take far longer to kill. Ranks isnt much of a problem for me, im a dual user and i can still out rank them even though i dont spam. When they spam like that normal attack dmg shoots up, so if your a rampage user you can really benefit from this, since the current change to rampage boosts normal attack damage. Since most dont use or have access to this skill they rely on their Strong DPS combos, and with spammers in the party, those DPS combos drops extermely,

 

I found a good solution if you have a physical spammer. Ask for leadership quickly, and then kick them.

 

xD Vadar. To beat a spammer it all about timing. if you see tha spammer, use regular attacks until they hit the end of thier combo. then use you DPS combo. When you use regular attacks then use your DPS combo after their spam, you will gain a little more prorate to deal more dmg then them. By them spamming their damage is already low. Just have to time the prorate right and catch it when it rises for skill damage. Normal Attack damage can be a dead giveaway of how the prorate is. If the normal attack dmg drops lower then usual then the skills damage jumps up a bit.

 

There's no end of their spam coz they have unlimited mp from quick draw ex: gunfu, 1hfu, staff fu etc

 

In International Server, I usually found myself in a party full of spammers. I told the 3 of them not to spam, but I got kicked instead, for not spamming like them.

 

You have a choice to PT them the first place. maybe next time ask them about build before inviting them to Party.. the build is to spam fast kill boss and do more run. or slow run and make u look good with yourself as high damage. kicking someone cause there build is to spam is wrong. if they stand there doing nothing then there a reason to kick.

 

lol That Spam text. Now your spamming xD

 

Can someone please explain proration for me in layman's terms ? Im a 2h tempest impact warcry shell break user. I notice if I spam I do less dmg.. how many auto attacks should I do in between ?

Maybe if someone can list out effects of certain skills on proration and how it affects a party that'd be great. Maybe other players have negatively impacted my dmg without me knowing proration was the reason. I just thought my dmg fluctuates .. lol

 

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I usually do 2 auto attack after combo ,unless if I were the only one physical user in a full mage party then I will do spam

 

So , it conclude that every class is spammer if they want

Mage (any type) highest (mine) DPs combo around 30k+
Halberd (any) same
2H 40k+
Duel wield (IDK)
Sniper (bowgun/bow) seriously annoying there is time that can reach 1m hit

Conclusion u hate spammer don't give a shit to make party or join one u got a ball as a man do your own shit #sigh
Can't people think if they are the one you hate?

This show how naiive if you wanna make party and said Hey I'm party leader , who do you think you are to stole all rank?

You don't wanna spammer stole your rank do your own shit take example from D.Song , Dewtwo and other Beta/Alpha tester they didn't complain shit . . . Bec they got brain to think if they're on the other side place

P.s Hate spammer don't make or join party go solo

 

Party with me lol, I am a party prorator, the total opposite of spammers and randomly uses combos, even if I do, they are really short ones (that's why I often get breaker as the combo is a flinch combo, Finch lock if with previous spiral air T^T and other than that, I just do AA XD)

 

lol Yanaplz evryone doesnt hate spammer cuase they steal all ranks, it beacuse that spamming kill the party prorate as a whole and make mini boss and regular bosses take much longer to kill. Slower kills equal slower drops.

 

I noticed when farming Metal stinger and solo testing some bosses, that i reach max dmg on my skills after i use regular attacks 10 times. After that, here is where it gets a little interesting. After the 10 regular attacks, and using a combo, For bigger combos (7 skill combos) i noticed that if do 3 regular attacks before using the combo again the damage for my big combo the damge remains the same any less then 3 regular attacks then the damage from those skills in that combo drops.

For smaller combos (5 skill combos or less) its different, after 10 regular attack l, before using the combo again it only requires 2 attacks in between for the damage of those skills in that combo to remain the same. In parties the regular attacks and combo uses are all shared so if someone is spamming i can be a bit difficult to get the skill damage output up again (which is why bosses takes longer to kill). If you do have a spammer in the party its best to keep a consistent pattern of regular attacks and skill combo usage since the prorate fluctuate randomly.

 

I agree 50% of your statement bec player (newly inv to pt) will take around 30-50 sec to ready and the leader should discuss the plan before Go example : Pillar Golem and Twilight Dragon need a stunner if there aren't any just use spamming skill it in the first round leader will check all player skill and combo

The party should be like this

Leader make decision
Tanker/Breaker will do as the lead said
Screen Monitor(Supporter) will need to ready to use buff and others

It's basic for a party
In game (Android) didn't usually got PvP (live one) so , nobody can advance mastery in their combo .

But, if u got experience from PC game you will use knowledge to the extent

 

This is Toram your talking about, from what i seen, everyone wants to join a party and fast kill bosses to get faster drops hoping to get a Crystal or some other rare materials. No one wants to take that kinda time out to prepare for a bosses, not in this game that is. Possibly for gem runs on nightmare mode they would.

 

It sure does but , can one complain others about their playstyle if that is the case? No, right? If wanna make a lot aggro tanker will use Knight skill tree , shield and others that related breaker should focus on breaking same to attacker

About gem run what do you think it is?
Drop rare?
Nope , it is a challenging so drop rate will increase so player can be excited by fighting harder boss example Ultimate will be like OMG lvl but , people wrong use it and sell it while they loot the xtal and the money from others
My guild master (ex) she solo TD on Ultimate solo + Glory & Super Rare Drop even thought it took a long time but in the he end she said it exciting to do this and wanna do it again.


The 'gem run' you are talking is not a True Gem Run instead a player that just wanna took money / just wanna get gem only not for excitement

 

Sorry it in Nightmare

 

Im not debating you about this, i just want you to know how Toram is now. It wasnt always like this and many would agree.
When Toram 1st started a lot more cared about party structure.

 

Is it really looks like a debate? I really didn't quite understand
In Beta we always talk like this