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Tyrant Mask or Reindeer Headband?

Discussion in 'Halberd' started by Rayy, Jan 6, 2019.

  1. Rayy

    Rayy New Member

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    Which one is better for halb?
     
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    Alzarith Elite Member Elite Member

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    reindeer
     
  3. Rayy

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    And for the xtall? Bapho+gui?
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Go for devil circlet for halberd, better than both of them.
     
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    I‘d like to disagree. With Reindeer Headband I loose about 120 Atk and I would dare to say those 4% dmg don‘t make up for that. In addition Tyrant gives more Def and Magic Barrier.

    Can‘t say much about Devil Circlet. Possible that the damage outcome is better, but I don‘t like crit rate loss.
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Depends on what your total atk stat is, if it is like 3500 already then +120 atk wont be a better boost than 4% srd/lrd that is excluding the tiny bit of atk and cdmg gained by the 4%. If it is less than 3000 then yes tyrant can be better, it is all about balancing different stats. Dragon tooth makes it simple and throws complications out of the window by negating boss def stat as a variable.
    I say both are pretty equal, if you want better defensive stats then theres much better gear than tyrant mask too.

    As for devil circlet the -20 crit version, it is really not difficult to get back the 20 crit, just 30 CRT personal stat, critical UP battle skill and critical spear skill is enough, the 30 stat point you can add agi for like 60 more ATK stat but it wont be enough to match the massive 10% cdmg. 2 stats will be capped soon anyway.
     
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    Very true about the crit rate, but you won‘t be able to reach that 125 crit needed for crit resist bosses
     
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    Well, if what SuzukiP was telling us about raising the stats cap would come true, then I think we can make up for the cdmg loss via gaining more Str in the future?
     
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    Depends on your build. If ur just an impact/dtooth playstyle forever then crt rate might be useless for you. But if you got a different build ( not bandwagon meta ) other stats can be considered I guess.
     
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    Why use anything except dtooth when dtooth is the most powerful skill available, it's not a bandwagon, although it is META (Most Effective Tactic Available). People use certain things for certain reasons, and using something weaker and different just to be "unique" is fine but it's annoying if you're trying to push it on people
     
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    Hmh again this is true for normal bosses. But if you fight crit resist bosses regulary like Ornlarf you will face a hard time with only 75% hit chance of dt
     
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    For me the 10% cdmg of devil circlet give +20cdmg. If I remeber right it‘s 5str=1cdmg, so 4% str from reindeer would need to give you 100 str to gain the same cdmg amount. To get that you would need 2500 str.
     
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    I'm using it too along with other else. I said depends on the builds. Clearly my comments are not based on 1 build alone and considering other build route? Not because my main DPS skills is DT or others or both it means my MP management should be that or survive ability must be this. Most effective maybe because game haven't seen/tried any other option yet that's why many said it's the most effective? That's why most comments are assuming it's playing on that build? Coz been with 2 long range DT 175 @ venena nm and I'm always 2nd atker next to the mage when I'm only 171 with playstyle of a breaker.
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    It is the most effective compared to all other builds there is nothing we have not tried. Just because you won attacker rank few times against randoms doesnt mean your build is more effective. Playstyle and build optimization are 2 different things.
     
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    What do you mean by playstyle of a breaker and everybody sucks at Venena nm I got Attacker with only autos with my dual lmao. But that doesn't mean my dual is the best.
     
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    Dual is op with autos now plus it always have the survive ability via mobility without mp management problems. My HB don't use wos as mp management I just auto atk I'm just utilizing mp carefully by making sure combo I use is properly prorated. It don't have skills/gears/etc(as much as possible) that reduces def/hp/resistance as a negative effects in exchange for motion speed so I can take a hits because I'm melee, with a mobility of a DW that helps on survive ability knowing the patterns of atks helps me when I should use combo . All of that on top of 4K atk stats. If I die once, others die 2-3x. If HB be sacrificing hp for max dmg output yeah build can focus on improving DT skills. However mine kinda balanced not centered on one skill alone with a decent output from DPS skills in exchange for a bit survive ability. My stats build is for DPS but the playstyle requires to prorate, needs to be a breaker.
     
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    Says he has 4k atk and then says his non meta build won against a bunch of random people at venena without asking what their atk is. What a genius
     
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    TBH I think that's decent compared to other rich players I'm only using outdated garbs and 1slot add. Even tho atk appears higher the quantity of combos I can throw are limited compared to others. It feels like the survive ability making the difference. Meta build like mages impact-finale-recharge meta, my HB not impact - dtoot - finale - qa - wos (loop)
     
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    tyrantmask npc made for a bit defence

    reindeer headband for pure damage and normal fast run.
     
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    Little update: finally came to test Devil Circlet (Baphomela) and Tyrant Mask (Guignol) and came to the conclusion that Circlet is way better than Mask
     

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