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wise words suzuki

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Maro24, May 27, 2019.

  1. Maro24

    Maro24 Well-Known Member

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    Just something suzuki said during recent stream. Im not hating dual swords or anything, its just other classes are not getting much attention lately and Youtube is flooded with dual swords gameplays. Its getting extremely boring.
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    heartlesssssssss..
     
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    bitter truth
     
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    Quit toram Left. Elite Member

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    What does Tatsuya even know about his own game?
     
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    Zufeng Well-Known Member

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    I do really hope he not going to put any pvp-exclusive prize when its released.
    I can smell the fuckery if it implemented.
     
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    he's right,dual sword aren't everything.

    the player made the class they use,strong
    If the player is experience,the char will be too.

    this has been proven multiple times on halberd,magic sword,staff fu,..etc...etc.

    just because it's easy to use doesn't mean you are invincible or the strongest,iron empress shtted on those simpleton who thinks that they are invincible just because they use a "strong" class,or a strong skill.

    we need more bosses like iron empress after decoy shot got nerfed,to open up some minds.
     
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  7. Zufeng

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    Gespenst 2 also.
    Probably the most fun hard boss i've ever had (Especially when heads start rolling on P5)
     
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    You will see how experienced the player was when it comes to gespent II. But of course, having complete equipment with 2 slot gives some slight advantage, but ns can withstand 2s player if ns player know what to do and 2s player just know how to spam.(and of course again, gespent is easier now if we gonna fight it cause we have more powerfull equipments and more stats)

    By the way, RIP mages on pvp, they are very vulnerable from attacks.
     
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    PvP will never be a good idea to introduce into this game. What made them think it was a good idea?
    They probably gonna do the same thing like what they did with Iron Emp. Make a stronger version with a damage cap, and probably different drops too.
     
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    Recently when i played in King Potum with my mage 35% magic pierce and 3500 MATK, my finale had damage cap in the first hit that was 500K.
    So, is probably that in the mq exist more boss with damage cap like Iron empress.

    Poor my mage :'v
     
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    On contrary, i think pvp will help us think other build up, since funale is a big NO on 1v1 pvp cause 4 seconds (finale's charge)is enough for your enemy to kill you. So some of us may think other build up, if you gonna make a pvp type character or a pve type character (like aurcus and avabel)
     
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    Those were my newly build tank days that boss left such a huge scare on me *sigh*
     
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    Pvp huh? Guess the inevitable is comming, hope it is an arena type and only that type. It would open up multi builds, what works pve is not always good at pvp(otherwise it be like the "fastest thumb in the east") opens up new can of worms too, a ripple in the skill balance is very much like a nuke in the meta. Forcing new purchase of obli books and char slots. Constant re-balance is constant income(like stirring a pot that change flavor in every turn lol)
     
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    Gespenst 2 is meh :p
     
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    I would assumed pvp would be: 2 players fight the same monster seperately. Hp remaining, damage taken, damage dealt, time taken, and consumables used would all be taken into account to add up to a total score.
     
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    Pvp = many might quit. Majority of player base are in seek of an easy gaming, brainless playstyle vs programmed foes. Pvp be like many will resort to mods easy kills other players and flood it in youtube saying their too OP :fail:
     
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    unless Magic: Wall becomes a superior PVP defense skill.


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    and if pvp comes. watch out for brawlers. >:) rapid punches and kicks waiting for everyone.
     
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    I'll stick to farming boss and minis.
    Never liked pvp personally since i often got player with wide lvl gap in past in every game
     
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    Did the devs say that pvp is coming?
     
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    Each Class has their own strengths and weaknesses
    Halberd's Dragon Tooth has 100% physical pierce. very useful on bosses like zahhak
    Bows are not bothered by the bosses attacks for the most part. your DPS will not be seriously hurt unless the boss has a lot of physical resistance/evade
    Katanas are great with sustained DPS(tenryu), and they can even subvert the nerf by playing a bow/katana build.
    2h are powerful burst, they can take care of their own ampr with rampage+berserk.
    dw is also bursty, but unlike the 2h shouldn't mind face tanking with an P.ava's sword, they are more like the assassin. get a hit in and they should die.

    If they do put PvP, the builds people will take into them will be worlds different. because against a programmed foe with avoidable attacks, you'll require maybe one sidestep/backstep.
    in PvP you'll need a lot more defence. also, the combo system butts heads with pvp. for example,impact can be a dead giveaway that a high mp skill(like SC) is coming.
     
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