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SKILL REBALANCE

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Efra, Jun 20, 2019.

  1. Adx97

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    Dw is main skill tree, just like others it must have t4 skill. Just because it doesn't have 'lock' skill doesn't mean they isn't supposed to get one. Just like t3 skill, dw doesn't have lock skill. Dw get t4 and t3 is not because of people complaining, it just the requirements to unlock dw skill is lv30, +20 lv for higher tier.
     
  2. Kaejuda

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    if they care from the first place then it would not have taken them 7 months.

    afaik most of the skills all have "Lock" icon on their future skill set,usually so.

    following your logical reason,it makes sense for all main weapon skills to have tier 4,But Support skills and Other skills like smith/synthesis has tier 4 too,and they all have "Lock" on them ever since they were released wayyyy back.


    so why does asobimo only leave out ds not having any "Lock"?why does it take 7 months for them to release a single skill tree when they could have just release it along with the batch at april?


    well,we both don't work for asobimo so we can never know how many grapes they were thinking when making lemonade anyway,but heyyyy conspiracy theories right?
     
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  4. Komibii

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    The funny thing is that they used to have locks on them, but then the devs removed them for whatever reason. The DW skills have always been late to get their new skills, and one of those reasons is that the DW class is harder to use than the others. DW isn't available as a starter class and their t1 skills don't become available untill level 30 (number may be wrong, it's been a while), this is most likely done to prevent newer players from playing a difficult class and not enjoying the game.
     
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    I remember the old days of DW, when it first came out, when the purpose of DW was supposed to be an extension of Sword skills, allowing more flexible movement options in battle with the ability to gain double AMPR, high ASPD, and ways to be more of a utility to the sword skills big skillset with Trigger and Spiral Air as prime used candidates with Cross Parry and Spinning used for the utility that it was meant for since you didnt have a shield, and Charging was good DPS with a good way to reposition yourself.
     
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  6. GlaciaX

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    funny how having a ampr clone changed the meta this much tbh
     
  7. Kaejuda

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    i remembered some really strong players back then that even with only ds tier 3 skills,can out dmg some tier 4 skills with their combo set and fast builds,it was amazing.

    ya,they could have just nerf the ds ampr rate only or remove the mp heal for sc and it would have done the trick,but noooo nerf the entire dmg calculation like finale,twice.


    geniuses at asobimo hq,80% scrolling through mailbox complains,20% actually testing stuffs.


    who wants to bet they are gonna fked it up again and gets more complain after.
     
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  8. ViPR

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    Honestly dw should be fine they have multiple advantages going for them, as long as SC isn’t dropped to phantom slash levels of dmg
     
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    They will begin the maintenance today, right? I'm in doubt because there are no Maintenance notice in today's news feed.
     
  10. Hiame

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    "Rebalance"
     
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  11. Little Potum

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    Man, no knuckle buff. I was really hoping for a rebalance for knuckles.
     
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  12. Isra

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    Who's ready to see all these skills still be about the same as before?
    I know I am!
     
  13. ViPR

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    Throw dagger will be worth 10sp now imo. I don’t know about the other skills tho.
     
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    Isra Cock and Ball Torture Elite Member

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    Said about the same, but whatever I suppose :v
     
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    Excuse me? ds tier 3 skills outdamaging tier 4 skills? that's definitely incorrect, their strongest skill was phantom slash, which even after buffs were barely able to keep up with tier 3 of other weapons. I've been playing dual wield since pillar golem was the latest boss(level cap was 110 iirc), and basically every alternate party would just downright kick me, or would disband and reform later.(I knew because I remained in the same map, and they'd be shouting "lf1m insert boss here" later I'd to basically grind solo as high as I could, or request help from my guild. when tier 4 came out people were flexing on their 1m cf hits. phantom slash was hitting like what, 12k a slash(would have totalled to a little over 100k), but it was measly. once tier 4 came out tho, they were kings of damage. they deserved some time in the spotlight, they got it.

    either way, dual wields are and have always been all about that AMPR, being evasive and the edgelords, but we've abandoned them where they can actually do something with their full vit double longswords and failed killer coat. people would laugh at dual sword for being useless, and when it actually became useful, they cried it's OP. what's your problem, it just means faster kills. isn't it the same excuse people give for sweeping modders under the rug? as for finale, it doesn't need a damage boost, it needs to be changed so the first hit locks on, as in it always hits the target. I think being vulnerable for 4 seconds is enough of a downside. but no, they just alter the number, because the obvious way to fix a blunt knife is to hit it with a hammer. on the plus side, we are getting more vulnerable bosses.

    Finale was quite strong. it was to be expected, what, with an attack that can't be evaded and even guard is less effective. therefore they decided to slow it down. basically making it so that it does incredible amounts of damage to absolutely nothing. Instead of realising they went overboard with the slowing, they buffed the first hit, and make the next two hits do nonexistent damage.while clearly intended to buff, this helped mages by bringing down all the cannon fodder in the zone down on their asses. and because of the stupid flinch thing they just have to sit there begging their party to save them, who will probably do so with the tact and grace of a swift kick. rebalance my ass. the game itself is broken on so many levels, you can rebalance it all you like, nothing is going to happen. and when they actually try to create some difficult boss or something resembling that, people come out of the woodwork and complain it's too hard. yeah, spending 10-15 of your 200+ SP to get one invul is too much. or is that 0.01 seconds in your boss kill too much.
    /rant

    I personally don't use any of the other classes,
     
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  16. Zufeng

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    Tested decoy nerf on Neo Maton
    Its almost do no atk due to heavy amount of aoe present.

    Welp,time to make bg tank
     
  17. BK

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    Finale dmg is <3 now. Can do around 1.4m with braveaura and around 1m without it. My mage is losing out on around 400matk due to selling equips but its good
     
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    So... are the previously badly nerfed 2nd and 3rd hits of Finale doing ok damage to leap out of "cannon fodder aggro-er" and "mob swarm lurer" category now?
     
  19. Spanish Bread

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    How's DW doing?
    :D:D:D
     
  20. BK

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    3rd hit was doing around 39k on mobs iirc
     

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