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Discussion in 'Toram Online Player Feedback / Review' started by 《《MiLo》》, Dec 31, 2019.

  1. kariin

    kariin Patience is a Virtue Staff Member MODERATOR Super Likable Elite Member Wiki Contributor Epic Member

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    i dont get whats wrong w/ppl speaking their native language. no one is complaining that you're speaking your native language.
     
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    I understand your problem.
    But i need to let you know there are far worse indo player.
    The most barbarian player would play fps and moba games.
    You should be grateful only mild tempered indo play in toram.
    And this is a game for kid.
    Don't always think you'll find mature player who knows multiple languages
     
  3. Kaejuda

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    speaking one's native language isn't wrong,but excessive use and spam of it is extremely rude and annoying to others.

    even more annoying is the fact that these "toxic people" occasionally trash talk behind other players who doesn't know their language.

    what's more,some of them even go so far as to AsSumE every player is their own kin + comparing other country players to their own people (the so-called-only-pros in their delusion,who occasionally contaminated the game on a daily basis)

    I see this.every single.day and I am sicken by them,really.

    They are not completely clueless,but are doing it intentionally.

    i won't need to point fingers and surely everyone already knew who's bad and what not.
     
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    Isra Cock and Ball Torture Elite Member

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    But they dwarf the amount of english speaking players. Not counting just Americans or Europeans
     
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    Toram +++ International Server = More country's people can play

    Indonesian Player >>> International Server <<< only communicate with Indonesian language
    Indonesian Player + Indonesian Player + Indonesian Player >>> International Server <<< Others country's people

    .... [Indonesian Player + Indonesian Player + Indonesian Player] >>> International Server <<< Others country's people


    Finally... [Indonesian Player + Indonesian Player + Indonesian Player] >>> International Server <<< [Others country's people]
    or the worst case ...
    [Indonesian Player + Indonesian Player + Indonesian Player] >>> International Server ...Others country's people >>>

    Less communicate = Deadly MMORPG
    Toram have International Server for ?


    I don't want to racism other people.

    ***P.S. adding some word
     
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  6. -Kazuki-

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    I approve this. Although I'm Indonesian, I agree that it's very annoying when they start to use Bahasa in every convo. Like, bruh at least like try to speak English first, or make sure that the person you're trying to talk to is Indonesian by asking. I've seen so many Indo players straight up speak Bahasa when they had just formed/joined a party, like they were 100% sure everyone there speaks Bahasa. It's very disrespectful imo.
     
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  7. Lucifere

    Lucifere Angel of Rebellion Elite Member

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    Becuz they use Google translator xD
     
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    Nah, i think google translator better than them. #no offense
     
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    First off, your grammar, no offense
    Second;
    Screenshot_2020-01-01-18-04-29-429_com.google.android.apps.translate.png
    Can't really blame 'em, can you?
     
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    i though thouse are the thimes in whe sharl make a step of oure own. so lette them be confused as whe arth, for whe wille talk only in the shakespearian tounghe.
     
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    Thou art gay, for thine maternal parent engaged in unholy communion
    Therefore, thou shalt repent for thine sins
     
  12. Keyzeel

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    Yea, i'm not sayin my grammer better than y'all. And i open to criticism about my grammer. It would help my english getting better. I hope this mindset can be applied to those who said 'i go u no go' or somethin like that.
     
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    This thread has degenerated into nonspeak
    Where's CeltyS to call everyone hoodrats again?
     
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    hehe can use chaucer english in canterbury tales.
     
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    Ah, yes a standard SJW approach to why should people learn English when coming to America

    Hate to get political, Karen, but the reason the world maintains a lingua franca for basically everything is to make it easier to discuss... Anything. It's the world's most spoken language behind Chinese and Spanish, with the previous two languages being secluded to their countries.

    How does this apply to Toram?
    Because the vast majority of International players have some level of competence in speaking English. Even saying "I cannot speak English" shows that you are able to relay the message in the most predominant language in Toram.

    No one will give a damn if you can't speak English if you say you canty. But if you adamantly choose against speaking it for selfish reasons, don't get mad when people ignore you or call you out on it. There's certain servers for a reason, such as an English server for English speaking people, Japanese for Japanese speaking people, and the list goes on. Why get mad when someone say "Pls speak English" in the English server. It's like a baker getting mad when someone says stop baking in a rock quarry.

    TL;DR
    Speak the extraneous language exclusively to your people. If you wanna talk to the vast majority, use the language that most people speak: English

    I'mma get downvoted as a racist I can smell it
     
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    just to say,i'm also asian,english isn't even my born language but here i am,almost always using it.

    i found this game on google play in english,i download it in english,i create my account in english,i learn everything in english.

    if someone can download,create an account and play this game through the tutorials,they aren't that stupid just to not know a couple simple english sentence like "i no speak english"

    i mean english is taught as a second language in almost every corner of the world,how can they download a game called TORAM "ONLINE" and not know about it.

    if im wrong then i guess not all humans can evolve correctly.

     
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    This is my point exactly. English is heard once in someones life with the frequency of ot world wide. A simple google search can give the translations of "i cant speak". There's close to no excuse to not be able to at least type that phrase. It literally dissolve most of if not all issues surrounding language
     
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    i thought we were referring to the international server. all i'm saying is i don't assume everyone in the world speaks english, if they choose to speak their own language, they can. it's not like they're speaking to you in indo. i've been in many parties where they all just communicate in indo, it doesnt bother me. i dont care if they say crap about me in their language, i dont understand it so whatever. however, i've also been in parties w/indos where they are talking to me and i simply say, "english only" then they'll try to ask me in very broken english, so yes, i understand why they choose to speak in their own language. it is the internationals server after all. i can't expect everyone to know english. and i've also been irl using another language to talk about someone in front of their face (like how to get around security with security in front of you), it's just facts of life. i feel sorry for all the indos being targeted in this thread simply cause they speak their own language when they choose to, and why everyone gets butthurt about it. it's the same feeling when u speak english and they don't understand you're talking crap about them. so instead of being on a high horse, why can't everyone just be at peace that this will always happen and no matter how much you rant about it, just let it go. move on. live in peace. etc etc. why yal got to take it so seriously? it's 2020, be happy! :)
     
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    The default language for Toram is English. How can they know how to speak English and play?
    It's not an assumption when there's some fact that says "They can at least know some phrases that are in the English language"
    No one said they can't; it's obvious you haven't read a single word I have wrote
    No one is bothered by it. But English is more prevalent with Toram players, why not use that for introduction instead of Indonesian? Wouldn't it bridge the language barrier easier? If they're more comfortable speaking their native tongue, they can use it when addressing someone of their own language.
    So apparently its ok to talk down to someone because they speak another language? That's pretty messed up Karen, think of what you're implying.
    Too bad the default language is English for Toram. I can't play a Japanese game well because I dunno Japanese. Can't play a Spanish game too good because I can't read Spanish. Why is it turned around suddenly for them?

    Name one Indo who's being targeted when no one has an issue with them speaking Indonesian. Please, I absolutely dare you, Karen
    Who talks crap about Indonesians? Yeah, some have bad attitudes. Those are the ones we talk about, more often then not candidly with other Indonesian friends who laugh alongside with us

    Name the high horse Karen. You're the one who's pointing down saying that we're attacking people when we're voicing our opinion on how people should maybe, just maybe, use the language the game is made in when addressing people they don't know and when they know that the person can speak Indonesian with people who know Indonesian
    Nice deflection, I hope yours is Hell as usual Karen
     
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  20. kariin

    kariin Patience is a Virtue Staff Member MODERATOR Super Likable Elite Member Wiki Contributor Epic Member

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    the whole post wasn't solely about you, get over yourself. i'm referring to this thread, the word "indonesian" is littered all over this thread.
    i've also removed a lot of hate threads about indonesians on this forum many times, just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. If the game main language is then why are all the live vid coming from asobimo is in japanese?
     

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