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Close quarters combat mage

Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by Kaisyl, Jan 25, 2020.

  1. Kaisyl

    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    Staff sub Knux or Knux sub magic device?

    Main stats is
    INT Focus, AGI: 100+, DEX: 100+
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    INT Focus, STR: 100+, DEX: 100+

    Build uses knux skills for ailment and physical DPS with magic skills being the finisher/heavy duty damage.

    Has anyone tried a build like this? How has it worked out for you?
     
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    Rydalis Darx Well-Known Member

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    I do Knux MD with INT=AGI
    With Sacred Ice Armour and Fairy Wings giving +1.5 Atk for every INT, +2 Atk from AGI, and Conversion on Knucks at +C
    I'm able to hit 1700 ATK and MATK at lv140 with a good amount of leeway to throw stats into STR. AND, STR gives +1 MATK and CritDmg so it's all well and good

    Magic Warrior + Knuckles + Magic + Wizard and soon + Crusher
     
  3. Kaisyl

    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    Yeah, this works if you're making knux skills the main attack force which isnt bad but i want knux skills to grant the disability whilst magic skills deal the final damage.

    Knux sub has 15% matk penalty whilst md sub has less if magic warrior passives are used.

    But for you, how would you say you perform at bosses of equal level?
     
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    Rydalis Darx Well-Known Member

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    If I have aggro, I can play a decent tanker with Stoneskin and interuptions.
    If I dont, I can deal out Chariots and Bursts with Maximizer, overall decent mixed damage with high proration.
     
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  5. Kaisyl

    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    And it should become even easier with crusher breath works.

    Thanks a ton for the input
     
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    Rydalis Darx Well-Known Member

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    Depends on how good it is, but yes, you basically get every element in the game with magic, wizard, and knuckles.
    And crusher can be more DPS it might want
     
  7. Kaisyl

    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    Yeah, easy fast break, pop annihilator and smash boss down fast with a combination of magic, fists and feet.

    Least if everything goes accordingly. With a speedy type build like this, whilst i would like to take finale, something tells me that it would be highly incompatible. Burst is good cuz its fast yet at the same time, few magic skills are instant cast (javalin and impact) with the others probably needing backstep to get some distance before use.

    Eg:
    Shell break 》 backstep (cons) 》 Lances (smite) 》 Floating kick (consec)

    Gonna be fun working with this build.
     
  8. Zezusa

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    Yes many staff sub knuc is called staf fu , main stat str then spd mostly
    *has a higher base attack
    *has access to Maximizer (+1500 mp)
    * - just looks weird seeing a staff user doing melee attacks*
    * lower ASPD and AMPR

    * usually a lower stability

    Knuc md sub, main stat spd then str
    * high ASPD and AMPR
    *has access to Maximizer (+1700mp)
    *has access to magic warrior ailment skills
    *has access to an easier range of elemental and physical piece knuc
    *looks more natural
    *has a higher stability

    * has a lower base attack and an even lower attack with md sub equipped
    *usually needs book of magic warrior to offset the md sub drawback


    It’s based on preference but this is what I can recall from the top of my head .
     
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    You guys have probably not used Impact(smite) on a knux md build. It's the strongest hitting magic dps skill md mages have before there was finale.
     
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    I’ve tried a build kinda like this. It was an INT>STR chariot + burst staff fu which used chariot as the semi DPS in the burst counter combo with burst as the final/main DPS. It was fairly underwhelming at the time but I believe it could be more viable now since we can experiment a lot more with statting.

    I don’t think mixing magic + physical DPS with knuckle main would be the best idea though. I think you would have to go staff + knuckle to see decent results since you could just go INT>STR or vice versa. With knuckles you’d need to get ATK from AGI which has lower ATK gain than STR on staff and no added critical damage. I think knuckle + MD would be better if you decided to focus FULLY on magic damage while using knuckle skills for utility because their MATK potential is actually not too far off from that of staves. (Probably more considering the penalty from using knuckle sub)
     
  11. Kaisyl

    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    Its kinda strange but i imagine using it would be something akin to having a death zone 3m within your personal area. You'd have to find a way to spam it tho (easy enuff to do) but this all goes back to having knux skills be the finalizer, eh, at this point it might as well be.
     
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    Rydalis Darx Well-Known Member

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    As someone who plays D&D, a staff user doing normal attacks is not a drawback or weird to look at XD
    This is actually a blessing in disguise.
     
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    Well I never played dungeons and dragons lol, but for me I wish there was a staff that looks more melee like the only staff that does it for me is the morning star from the miracle Potum, I intend to make my halb farmer versatile with dancer skills so it would be using staff at times, just I wish there were apps that look other than a staff for change xd.
     
  14. Kaisyl

    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    Theres a book if you like those things.

    Honestly, MDs have the highest app diversity if you're looking at magic weapons.
     
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    Zezusa Well-Known Member

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    It does I actually made three md builds that have different functions. And nah I hate reading xdd
     
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    imo cqc mage is shield mage
     
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    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    Why?
     
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    cuz it used stun and stuff and buffs to support team and finale as main dps and mtl stats
     
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    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    Martial skills (with scaling) can do that too, even more so as lock down is highly possible. With crusher hopefully mobility goes up
     
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    hmmm i c
     

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