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Is Spinning Slash a Good Farming Skill?

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Roxa, Feb 28, 2020.

  1. Rydalis Darx

    Rydalis Darx Well-Known Member

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    I think this thread has been a bit more snide than it needs to be.

    Here's my opinion,
    Spinning slash is a good farming skill, due to low cost and good range. However it needs more investment to do high damage to ensure kills on tougher enemies.
    Dive Impact is better for fighting tougher enemies in mass since the damage is high with just STR.
    Storm is better for fighting weaker enemies in mass since it sucks in and is easy to deal the damage you need to kill them with just INT.
    Spinning Slash is not much better than Storm on pure LUK characters, as a party of storm can do more on a majority of enemies, but is not a bad option for a cheap farmer.

    Just a small aside: Don't claim people to be "uneducated" about the game when all of this is just opinion. This is close to two people doing the same job differently but get similat results. Just because the other doesn't like the others way doesn't mean they are ignorant. If you like what you do and you make it work, do it. It is only up to society to tell you if others will accept you or not.
     
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    I don't have problem being wrong, but rather a problem with claims that weren't proven or are actually false. Personal attack fallacies don't prove anything except that discussion is turning into a circlejerk.
     
  3. ChrisZle

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    Spinning Slash has its pros and cons. Its best suited on mobs that it doesnt actually kill on the first stronf hit. This is because the subsequent ticks could. also recoup MP because of. Quick draw. The more mobs you hit, the better too. its 1MP and QD restores 1 MP so u might not need. to do an auto at all.
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    As for the setup thats another lengthy reply. just putting this out from someone that actually tried farming using SS.
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    Also, you can do Spinning Slash > Shadow Step cons with Flash Blast active for. added. AoE.
     
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    On a side not SS gives a halb farmer more diversity, with the same stats and clever stat distribution your halb farmer can use dive, SS and nature’s wonder all in one. Your only change would be weapon equips , which when you think of it can be very cleaver
     
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  5. ChrisZle

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    actually this holds true. with the current stats, u can just go str-agi and just shift skills depending on wjether you want to use Halb or DS skills.
     
  6. SirDex

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    I'm not personally attacking you, I am just disproving that spinning slash isnt as potato and useless as you claim it to be and I used words like ignorant because your comments were ignorant, I showed it's actually very viable in certain spots and if someone uses it just because you personally don't use it kicking someone using it at a spot where it works just fine seems a bit ignorant to me. And I won't disagree that storm and dive impact are the better skills all round and more versatile, but at particular spots spinning slash farms the fastest in full party or no party.
    Anyway I only wanted to show that the skill actually does work of course only in certain instances but regardless of tier and range. I'm sorry if I upset you in anyway, have a good Sunday ^-^
     
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    tried it once, its fun its far from the usual impact storm charge cycle which eventually made me fell asleep(we all did it once or two admit it) andddd it doesnt lock u in one place which makes u an easy target for aoe atk from mobs unlike the usual meta Guardian magic+finale n really helpful wth mobs spawning for farmer class too. the only downside is it just involved so much investment in term of gears n mp recovery wise but still manageable.
     
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    Spinning slash and magic storm don't fit together. :v it's always downside for mage. Ss prorate magically other storm impact spammer also prorate magically rip that already tiny dmg that storm has.
     
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    So here u go lads why dw farmer has its benefits its fast its quick mp recovery if u have quick draw its practically endless mp.
    Flash blast can kill left out mobs.
    Screenshot_20200301-164503_ToramOnline.jpg How powerful is FB this much.
    DW farmer can have full luk rest agi stat and get away with it.
    Agi will increase dodge rate as most mobs won't be able to hit u physically so a psuedo invincibility.

    I farmed for 3min ish solo and its 9k metal mats not sure how it stacks up against halb and md
     
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  10. SirDex

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    Well then a party with four stormers is bad then xD
    I don't think proration matters much when it comes to farming mobs since we one/two shotting them.
     
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    I did the same test , video up there somewhere, verse a mage with full luk and the dw with no luk farmed more in a 3 minute time frame in this spot than a mage and with luk on dw it's also faster than a luk hb too, I tested this myself because I wanted the fastest method for farming summer shells at this spot last year.

    So that was my initial argument on this thread that spinning slash is really good at certain spots where the areas are smaller and mobs are more compact and not potatoe and useless like some people said it to be, saying they would kick people with it just seems naive and ignorant to me.
    And it's not my opinion it's fact this skill works better at some spots.
    Thanks for showing it's a viable skill.
     
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    Yeah lol same farmed 5k stk mats in roughly 9 days in summer event. LOL people don't think out of box and only follow ytbers lmao
     
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    I can second this due to experience I was in party a ds farmer for ss and I made more mats than with a halb and waay more than a mage. Mages with storm are horrible there in comparison I took longer to full my bag.


    This is sad but true , I am not bashing youtubers because they do a good job educate masses but ppl rather wait for someone else to do a build rather than experiment themselves. For me the fun is in experimenting. My first year of toram I spend tying out wacky things I didn’t even really level much my highest character was like lv 150 just to get the t4 skills. It may have sounded like a waste to many but I enjoyed it and I still do wacky things from time to time, ppl need to keep an open mind about builds in this game, mainstream builds are not always the most useful.
     
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    So what we're all saying is that in the...4 years of DW's existance. That an average to well geared (relative to what's being farmed) DW has 2 profitable maps that they can potentially beat their competition at? Neat.

    As for the people talking about Youtubers and "thinking outside the box". Do realize that Spinning Slash farmers have been a thing for YEARS, long before Toram Youtuber's became anything near crowd influencing.

    It's no coincidence that Spinning Slash isn't trending when there's...2 farming spots...1 seasonal (that people create a DW and delete if they have character space) and a recently acknowledged spot. I mean...if you think about the history of the skill...maybe there's a reason so few people know it's good in 2 maps when there are...100+ farming spots it's proven itself to be bad on...just my opinion though.

    Glad to see it's finally giving DW farmers a place to farm.
     
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    No says you have to delete it , it can be consolidated into your halb farmer using the same stats str>luk you’ll just need to allocate skill points for it , which isn’t a problem since your farmer will most likely lv from farming so no heavy dps skills would be needed
     
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    I just put everything in the same character since I'm stupid and I always carry every weapon for every character on me
     
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    All i have to say in all this is that I have 1 account that have 4 DW characters on it, and all of them doesn't have problems mob farming solo for 3 years.
    The main reason mage farm pts hate DW getting in their parties is mostly coz Spinning Slash has the opposite effect to Storm. Storm sucks in mobs to a single point, while Spinning Slash will wreck all that by knocking the mobs back. xD

    Seriously though, i have posted on threads about this already; DW have very good farming skills. Between Spinning Slash, Flash Blast, Shadow Step, and Charge Slash.
     
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    Any skill can outmatch another depending on the map n terrain x3
    Storm/dive good for enclosed spaces~
    Finale good for large areas~
    CF/Spiral thingy [hey, it can be a thing xD](forgot name)..uh..1/2h skill for long straight areas/corridors~
    N Dw..um..dps-ing at miniboss/boss farming
    :b ~?
    DW can be VERY useful if the player knows what they r doing~
    But again, does it hurt to make a farmer char just for that purpose?
    Storm/dive have established themselves good farmers since ages so..~
     
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    dive impact just established recently, and when people first proposed it they got bashed just like in this thread.
    storm is mostly overglorified.
    before tier 3 skills released, it was all about wall. sitting, waiting and mp charging. you could have 4 people walling and the mobs would just run around outside wall range and nothing happens. yet people got kicked when they didn't use wall or even dared to move to a better position.
     
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    This is the thread where we got bashed for trying to promote dive impact luk farmer lol https://toramonline.com/index.php?threads/hb-luk-as-farmer-your-thoughts.45765/page-4 Though it's understandable, its always a given that the majority of people hate unknown things, which is true in real life. They would rather stick to a tried and true method than experiment with new unknown stuff. @marysu also posted the videos of his friend's other attempts of trying other weapon classes for farming, which is on page 4 of the link I just posted, and from the results of it, other than dive impact, sonic blade using 2h is also a pretty good farming skill. Of course, since the game is always changing and the devs are constantly adding new stuff and buffing or nerfing skills, so there's always a chance that another new skill can farm better than dive impact at high level mobs.
     

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