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Baggy BowGun Tank (yep your right....just a TANK...just sharing toodles:)

Discussion in 'Bow Gun' started by Bago2, May 4, 2018.

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  1. Yunan

    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    Nice, I hate those tanks that dont even know how to corner WWs
     
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  2. Bago2

    Bago2 Well-Known Member

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    yeah hate those too. thats why i tend to analyze or tank it solo any mini or boss and try find ways to have an advantage.
    *still trying to find one at dusk machina thou hehheh.
     
  3. Yunan

    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    That's the fun part, alright. Sometimes when I got words of appreciation it makes me feel rewarded.
     
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  4. Bago2

    Bago2 Well-Known Member

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    UPDATE!!! you found it CONGRATS!!! (03/28/20)
    Previous Stats at 185:
    LVL 185...255mtl>155vit>78dex
    Hp 20,170 / Mp 1,285= lil empress garb(bossdrop)
    Curent level at 205:
    LVL 205...255mtl>168vit>115dex

    Hp 29,034 / Mp 2,000++
    *why the hell you have 115 dex???

    =primarily for bloody bite (hp return) & now for killing mobs during masskill :p
    RED TEXT = UPDATE
    BLUE TEXT = MUST HAVE
    My Total Skill Points: 284 (used 263) = 21
    BLADE Skills: 16 skill points
    5 sword mastery
    5 quick slash
    5 warcry
    1 berserk


    Shot Skills: 86 skill points
    5 power shot
    5 moeba
    5 paralysis
    5 smoke dust

    1 arm break
    5 bulleye (newly added just for test)
    10 sniper (newly added just for test)
    5 arrow rain (newly added just for test)
    10 crossfire (newly added just for test)

    5 shot mastery
    5 long range
    5 quick draw

    10 decoy
    10 fatal shot (will try this after reset)

    SUPPORT Skills: 35 skill points
    5 mini heal
    10 recovery
    10 sanctuary

    10 Heal (newly added just for test)

    SURVIVAL Skills:
    removed

    SHIELD Skill: 90 skill points
    10 shield mastery ~ aspd purpose
    10 shield bash ~ stun purpose
    10 shield cannon (newly added just for test)
    10 guard strike ~(will take this out is reset comes)
    10 Protection
    10 Aegis
    10 Guardian
    10 Force shield
    10 Magical shield


    KNIGHT Skills: 20 skill points
    5 assault
    5 parry

    10 perfect defense

    HUNTER Skills:
    removed


    MONONOFU Skills: 6 skill points
    5 bushido
    1 shukuchi

    DARK POWER Skills: 10 skill points

    10 bloody bite ~ option = at lvl 180 and with enough atk it gives 1,850 hp(due to current lvl cap of 185) per cast but have restrictions on boss and minis


    STAR GEMS Skills
    GUARD skills:

    10 heavy armor mastery
    BATTLE skills:
    10 def up
    HALBERD skills:
    10 quick aura
    HUNTER skills: (ailment sensitive boss for combo 3)
    10 kick
    BRAWLER skills: (not sensitive boss for combo 3)
    10 smash
    10 sonic
    SUPPORT skills:
    10 mini heal
    10 first aid
    *can mix and match depends on what you need
    BOWGUN:
    Cone horn III <
    currently using
    Diver's Bowgun
    Aqua Shooter

    Crystals:
    Evil Magic Sword (Critical Damage 5 / Aggro % 10 / Attack MP Recovery 5)
    Hero Putom (MaxHP % 10 / Accuracy % 10 / Aggro % 10 / Fractional Barrier % 10)

    SHIELD
    4th Anniv Shield IX

    ARMOR
    Heaven Feather Garb (mom fluck)
    Lil empress (seraph machina)
    Dragoon Mail
    Crystal:
    Arcoiris (Natural HP Regen % 10 / MaxHP % 10 / DEF % 10)

    Add Gears
    Santa Beard
    (for 106% ailment)
    Charm belt (for 99% ailment 106 magic resist with food)

    Crystals:
    Candela ll (MaxHP % 20 / MaxMP -250 / ASPD 600)
    Dusk Machina (MaxHP % 20 / Aggro % 10 / Long Range Damage % -10)
    Dragoon Helm
    Circle of Order
    Kitty Hat

    Charm belt

    Special Gear
    Dark Talisman (resist)
    Dark Fighter Bangle
    Crystals:
    Memecoleous (ATK % -4 / Guard Rate % 5 / Aggro % 12)
    Tapir ( Ampr 10 )

    Avatar stats
    Accessory: Ailment Resistance 4% / Natural Mp Regen +4
    Top: Ampr+7 / Max HP% 5 / Vit 1%
    Bottom: Def 5% / Ailment Resistance 7%

    Defensive stats:
    Guard Rate 38 %
    Guard Power 38 %
    Physical Resistance 35 %
    Magic Resistance 50 %
    Ailment Resistance 99-106 %
    Aggro 133 %
    Barrier Cooldown 100 %
    Physical Barrier 0
    Magic Barrier 0
    Fractional Barrier 14 %

    Attack speed: 712 with Quick Aura (1,269) so no need for SPEED POTS
    Attack: 1076 (bloody bite purpose hp return)
    combo 1 (short range aggro+ampr1)

    combo 2 (long range aggro)

    combo 3 (short range agro + ampr2)
    First: cast aegis or protection
    Second: cast combo 2 for initial agro (long range)
    Third: when you have the boss mini at your range , cast combo 1 if incase decoy was interupted then cast combo 3
    Using Bloody bite + Guardstrike ...enjoy :)
    Current atk: 1076 with 63 dex / Bloody Bite lvl: 10 / Guardstrike lvl:10

    Previous Stats at 180:
    LVL 185...255mtl>155vit>78dex
    Hp 20,170 / Mp 1,285= lil empress garb(bossdrop)
    Curent level at 190:
    LVL 190...255mtl>155vit>88dex

    Hp 23,786 / Mp 1,790= Heaven Feather Garb
    RED TEXT = UPDATE
    BLUE TEXT = MUST HAVE

    BLADE Skills: 16 skill points
    5 sword mastery
    5 quick slash
    5 warcry
    1 berserk


    Shot Skills: 46 skill points
    5 power shot
    5 moeba
    5 paralysis
    5 smoke dust

    1 arm break
    5 shot mastery
    5 long range
    5 quick draw

    10 decoy

    SUPPORT Skills: 25 skill points
    5 mini heal
    10 recovery
    10 sanctuary


    SURVIVAL Skills:
    5 safe rest
    10 hp boost ~ took this out due to hp is enough
    5 short rest
    10 mp boost ~ took this out due to mp is enough

    SHIELD Skill: 90 skill points
    10 shield mastery ~ aspd purpose
    10 shield bash ~ stun purpose
    10 shield cannon ~ stun purpose 2 ~ seems only good atm, for annoying mobs but can 1 hit kill
    10 guard strike
    10 Protection
    10 Aegis
    10 Guardian
    10 Force shield
    10 Magical shield


    KNIGHT Skills: 20 skill points
    5 assault
    5 parry

    10 perfect defense

    HUNTER Skills: 5 skill points
    5 kick
    10 sunrise arrow ~ trying this skill atm seems it fairly quick to cast for just 2mp and deals linear damage :) 14m at lvl 10

    MONONOFU Skills: 6 skill points
    5 bushido
    1 shukuchi

    DARK POWER Skills: 10 skill points

    10 bloody bite


    STAR GEMS Skills
    GUARD skills:

    10 heavy armor mastery
    BATTLE skills:
    10 def up
    HALBERD skills:
    10 quick aura
    HUNTER skills: (ailment sensitive boss for combo 3)
    10 kick
    BRAWLER skills: (not sensitive boss for combo 3)
    10 smash
    10 sonic
    SUPPORT skills:
    10 mini heal
    10 first aid
    *can mix and match depends on what you need
    Red text = Update or Additional gear
    BOWGUN:
    Cone horn III (
    Base ATK 180 / DEX % 6 / MaxMP 300 / Critical Rate 75 / Aggro % 15 / % stronger against Neutral 25 / Base Stability % 50)
    Crystals:
    Evil Magic Sword (Critical Damage 5 / Aggro % 10 / Attack MP Recovery 5)
    Hero Putom (MaxHP % 10 / Accuracy % 10 / Aggro % 10 / Fractional Barrier % 10)
    SHIELD
    3RD Annivesary Shield (Base DEF 36 / VIT % 5 / Guard Power % 38 / Guard Rate % 13 / Aggro % 21 / Fractional Barrier % 4)
    ARMOR
    Heaven Feather Garb (atk+6 / matk 6% / max hp 4000 / max mp 400 / revive time -30% / light resist +30 / dark +20% / neutral +10%)
    Crystal: ifrid (MaxMP 600 / Fractional Barrier % 12) will upgrade to mom fluck

    Lil empress (MaxMP 500 / Physical Resistance % 25 / Magical Resistance % 25 / Water resistance % -75 / Aggro % -15 / Attack MP Recovery 10)
    Crystal:
    Arcoiris (Natural HP Regen % 10 / MaxHP % 10 / DEF % 10)
    ~~~why this armor: resist definitely but i still have this on two: Brigadine (arco) Twilight Arm (arco)
    Add Gears
    Charm belt (Base DEF 30 MaxMP 300 / Magical Resistance % 15 / Aggro % 30 / Neutral Resistance % 10)
    Crystals:
    Candela ll (MaxHP % 20 / MaxMP -250 / ASPD 600)
    Dusk Machina (MaxHP % 20 / Aggro % 10 / Long Range Damage % -10)
    Circle of Order (Base DEF 46: Physical Resistance % 20 - / Magical Resistance % 20 - / Light resistance % 10)
    Kitty Hat (MaxHP % 15 / Ailment Resistance % 15) ~i will have 101% with this build ailment using this + hp, but lose 30% agro
    Santa beard (base 100: Ailment Resistance % 10 / Aggro % 30 / Neutral Resistance % 20 / Drop Rate % 1)
    with this i'm at 96% ailment resist with same 30% agro after using charm belt + add def
    Special Gear
    Dark Fighter Bangle (Base Def: MaxMP 400 / Accuracy 3 / Aggro % 25 )
    Crystals:
    Memecoleous (ATK % -4 / Guard Rate % 5 / Aggro % 12)
    Tapir ( Ampr 10 )

    Avatar stats
    Accessory: Guard Rate 1% / Ailment Resistant +6% / vit +3
    Top: Ampr+7 / Max HP% 5 / Vit 1%
    Bottom: Def 5% / Ailment Resistance 7%

    Defensive stats:
    AMPR 49
    DEF 770
    MDEF 555
    FLEE 191
    Guard Rate 19 %
    Guard Power 38 %
    Evasion Rate 0 %
    Physical Resistance 10 %
    Magic Resistance 10 %
    Refine Reduction 43 %
    Ailment Resistance 98 %
    Aggro 233 %
    Barrier Cooldown 100 %
    Physical Barrier 0
    Magic Barrier 0
    Fractional Barrier 26 %
    Reflect 0 %


    Attack speed:840 with Quick Aura (1,401) so no need for SPEED POTS :)
    Attack: 1,264 (bloody bite purpose hp return) w/o warcry
    combo 1 (short range aggro+ampr1)
    shield bash > arm break(save) > sanctuary(swift) > berserk(save)>decoy(swift) = 2mp
    combo 2 (long range aggro)
    moeba > arm break(save) > guardian(swift) > berserk(cons) = 2mp
    sonic wave > > arm break(save) > guardian(swift) > berserk(cons) = 2mp
    combo 3 (short range agro + ampr2)
    smash > arm break(save)> decoy(swift) > perfect defense (smith) = 2mp
    bloody bite > arm break(save)> decoy(swift) > perfect defense (smith) = 2mp (for close combat hp return + ampr of decoy)
    First: cast aegis or protection
    Second: cast combo 2 for initial agro (long range)
    Third: when you have the boss mini at your range , cast combo 1 if incase decoy was interupted then cast combo 3
    Using Bloody bite + Guardstrike ...enjoy :)
    Current atk: 1076 with 63 dex / Bloody Bite lvl: 10 / Guardstrike lvl:10
     
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  5. Relena25

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    i always loss aggro when partying with spammer or mage with finale. what should i do sometimes hard to get back the aggro although did spam provoke.

    and sometime i get miss when stun. anybody knows why? is because critical??
     
  6. Bago2

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    >loss agrro = ermmm whats your total agro atm / combo / gears+xtals
    >you cant really tell if someone have + agro food buff on your pt. and they wont tell you and mainly to give you as a tank a hard time lol(kudos to you my fvckin friend who always troll me using + agro buff!!)
    >what stun are you using? shield bash or shield cannon?? what lvl? need to be lvl 10 to stun. and it will miss on some boss too ( missed sometimes at bloodie )
    my crit rate atm is 115
     
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    can u update for combos 03/28/2020 build?
    i cant find the combo on ur spoiler
     
  8. +Aria Kanzaki+

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    It should still be the same for bowgun tanks. The best combos are always the short ones.
    Fast 1 mp skill(moeba/ad lib/etc.)>arm break(save)>guardian(swift)>P.def(cons) or 1 mp skill>fareth(Save)>guardian(swift) for guardian combo
    For other combos it all depends on the boss you're fighting, but the guardian combo is always the same and is needed for all boss.
    One of the biggest strengths of bowgun tanks is their long range ampr, which means they almost always never run out of MP, that means combos aren't that necessary to conserve mp.

    If you need sanctuary or other skills you can just manually cast them no problem, its also usually better to manually cast skills since its faster than a combo, which is important for tanks. All interrupt skills like shield cannon, smash, impact, etc. are best used without a combo, so you can spam them if it didn't proc the first time.

    For mass kills involving multiple bosses bowgun tanks can spam warcry manually to get all the aggro, spamming warcry generates area aggro faster than combo and you have no problem with mp because of your decoy shot.
     

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