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Deflation once again?

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by The Lost One, Apr 4, 2020.

  1. The Lost One

    The Lost One THOT BEGONE AGENT Elite Member

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    Just got back from 2 month hiatus or was it 3? quite hard to remember but anyway, wtf is going on with the market prices? it is like the pre rollback ones.

    holy molly.

    Edit: did the refine service became cheap? +S weapons are sold like 3.5m-6m at cb which is ridiculous.
     
  2. Insane23

    Insane23 Well-Known Member

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    Try to refine to +S yourself and discover the reason of those prices. Btw, I already saw +S Jet swords around 1-2m on cb, so 3.5-6m must be price for higher atk ones.
     
  3. The Lost One

    The Lost One THOT BEGONE AGENT Elite Member

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    ehhh? did refining sucess rate increase to have such prices? I am aware about the tier 4 smith skill effects btw but holy smokes, rng is not so bad now?
     
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    Insane23 Well-Known Member

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    Refining to +B is easier, but B to S is still the same. I think those prices are also due higher number of refiners and due low cost of antideg.
     
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  5. The Lost One

    The Lost One THOT BEGONE AGENT Elite Member

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    I see. True enough, anti deg for 270k-300k is like cheap just like before when I played the game for 15 min to check some stuff.

    Good for buyers, bad for sellers tho.
     
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  6. Xiavu

    Xiavu Lurking Overlord of LOVE[L.O.L.] Elite Member Epic Member

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    Well, new events, new stuffs, more junk chucked to the dump.
     
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    I'm not really sure what has happened to the market but I think torams numbers have decreased as nothing interesting is happening, many people have taken a break or moved onto another game so there's an over supply of items but low demand which drives prices down,
    and people leaving are trying to sell there equipment so there's an over supply of almost everything which is driving prices down.
    They selling so when they come back after a break they have spina and not outdated equipment that isn't worth anything anymore.
    I went to cerb last night on int1 and there was not one person, usually that place is busy any time of the day and most people are staying home with this virus so makes me believe the numbers are down in toram.

    Secondly there are people still running mods and bots, I have seen them on English channel at imitator, iconos, gwaimol and they probably at other bosses and worlds too, a party of four bots or mods, I duno what they are, farming a boss over and over for xtals. They all move together and some of them even with the same guild name.
    I always report them and the guild they in when I see them but I'm not sure if that helps, months later these auto modding bots are still exploiting this game.

    This coupled with the decline in numbers makes things like xtals deflate pretty badly because there's just too much supply.

    These bots/mods are seriously destroying torams economy and the game. Things like gemruns become almost useless because xtals are so cheap, so it's not really profitable and people won't buy them anymore, meaning toram loses revenue which means less content and attention from asobimo on the game.
    Also it makes new players coming to the game struggle to make spina and they end up quiting and moving onto another game, things like minoskins are so cheap now because of bots so spending an hour to make 150k, most people will get bored and give up.

    Refining is so cheap because +S is pretty easy to get and anti deg is so cheap, 300k a stack.
    Once 5th anniversary event is back anti deg prices will inflate and be expensive again and so will xtals because there's more people playing and a higher demand for xtals as everyones updating there equipment.

    So until then low prices are going to stay low and probably keep getting lower as more people leave toram.

    Anyway I'm talking too much.
     
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  8. A1dren

    A1dren Well-Known Member

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    not all pricey stuff nor cheap stuff will stay the same. its all comes down to what we called "trend".
    best example right here.. ;)
     
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  9. Surim

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    :3 I already tried long time ago to tell you guys that if refining gets easier the anti-degs price and refining cost will also become lower e.e you guys didn't understood and also insulted the poor little me ... qwq
     
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  10. Mass (Boatman)

    Mass (Boatman) Well-Known Member

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    I can say, after 5th Anniv Event, this game will be pretty much of a dead game thanks to those bots and the shitty report system too.

    This might be pretty much offensive but if there was a departure of Toram, they should make it for Japanese only and block all kinds of VPN if other players that is not from Japan tried to access into the game with those VPN.
     
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    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    You mean deflation, prices are going down
     
  12. The Lost One

    The Lost One THOT BEGONE AGENT Elite Member

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    True, most of the toxicity came from international players anyway.

    ohhh guess I used the wrong word there, thanks. Changed the title. lol
     
  13. Zufeng

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    I sold like my high atk anniv bow (182 +S 2S), all for a goddamn 50m
    Like wtf, last time I saw its like around 70m+

    I thought its because people are preparing for anniv 5, then I realize its still way too long for that.
    Seems like yes, people are leaving
     
  14. Surim

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    Yeah I can imagine how it will be like ... just like the road in 2020 April 1 ... empty XD
    @-@ and after few weeks they will stop maintenance and the project will be stopped forever ^-^ yeah I guess that a good way of having fun too ...
     
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    what do you expect even.

    this shitty game has no quality progression and it's intended on the Devs behalf.

    that's why the players left and the economy drops.

    until now we don't even have a mass deposit function for storage yet.

    do you see what they gave us on april 1st?

    a joke that worth 5 bucks,in the time of game deterioration.

    welp...im going back to my stone,it's more fun being under there than playing ToerAm
     
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    I prefer deflation over inflation any day for this game, makes selling items to NPC somewhat more viable than before and spina is worth more so those with a decent amount of spina now are somewhat more rich than they expect.

    I know the problems but I feel like this is better than the other direction.
     
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  17. UfuLamb

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    Love deflation! cheaper stuff is always good! people are whining when the prices are high and they also whine when prices are low, smh... And the newbies are always the scapegoat, poor ole newbies always suffering whether the prices are high or low.

    And also as a side note the prices are always at its highest every 100 lvls cuz of new stats that completely makes the previous ones obsolete, and anti deg has always been the most stable item in the list, still at 300k even with tier4 refining

    Its all a "trend" as @A1dren said

    And also toram is already at its 5th year and is still staying strong, most mobile MMOs from other companies just stay for a year or so, and look at iruna its been running for like 8 years under Asobimo, 15years if you include it under NTT DoCoMo, and the popular grinding spots are still decently populated.
     
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  18. The Lost One

    The Lost One THOT BEGONE AGENT Elite Member

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    what did they do on april 1? was not playing the game at that day.
     
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    they did an april fools joke where they said they were starting development on a toram spinoff iirc
     
  20. The Lost One

    The Lost One THOT BEGONE AGENT Elite Member

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    seems like a bad joke that got backfired lmao
     

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