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Adjust to parties proration?

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Sly*Cooper, May 16, 2020.

  1. Sly*Cooper

    Sly*Cooper Well-Known Member

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    I dont have swift attack in there and it's still doing this. Astute then dark stinger then quick aura and that's it. The only thing that it should be activating is dark stinger. But everytime I reuse the same combo it charges me an extra mp bar
     
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    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    Astute> dark Stinger > quick aura? 3MP, -2 to DMG

    Is it costing you 4 MP? I'd say that's a bug.
     
  3. Sly*Cooper

    Sly*Cooper Well-Known Member

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    It must be a bug then. Dark stinger is only 2mp. Quick aura is 0mp and astute is 0mp at lvl 10 with OHS. I honestly explained as best I can. I'll just deal with it.
     
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    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    Astute is 1 MP for OHS, no matter the level.
     
  5. Sly*Cooper

    Sly*Cooper Well-Known Member

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    Ok this pic is why I got confused about astute and also I recorded my gameplay just to show that on the 1st astute combo it only used 2 mp but the rest of the time its using 3mp like it should. I thought that since astute said -100 it meant it didnt cost what it said it would.



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  6. Kaisyl

    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    Ah well there it is, 1385 MP is prob the reason.

    The 3rd bar most likely isn't even full, it has a slight offset.
     
  7. Sly*Cooper

    Sly*Cooper Well-Known Member

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    Ok thanks i feel better now.
     
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    Throwing Knife lvl10
    Impact (problem tends to always be phsyical proaction.
    Swift Attack
    End your combo with Finale(smite) to avoid adding more proaction.
    Combination
     
  9. Sly*Cooper

    Sly*Cooper Well-Known Member

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    Ok cool
     
  10. Balugbog056

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    Dont use decoy. problem solve
     
  11. screamingfox

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    Sorry for the late reply. Been busy of late. Skimmed through quotes to me, didn't read a lot so sorry if the post are a bit scattered.
    I get that some people are like this. Which is why I said, if they're reasonable enough to converse with. If someone simply won't listen, they're simply not going to listen. I'm more concerned about players willing to learn but get instantly kicked.

    Combos and such are a whole other can of worms that should have a tutorial set ingame, rather than the current implementation that unlocks after 10 skills.

    You realize that NPC goes unnoticed by 90% of people right? They're most distinguishing feature is a bubble over their head. In a game where LITERALLY 98% of NPC's don't give relevant or useful information past flavor text. It's a good resource, and I implore you to send people there, but under the current implementation, there is no way most people would find them.

    As for the chat log. If you've spent over 500 hours in this game. As limited as the chat system is, there is no excuse for not being used to it. You may as well not talk at all, to friends or guild mates, if that's the case. Different languages though, that's something you can't help, and would not fall under someone "reasonable to converse with"...as it would be unreasonble to converse with them...if someone simply does not care they'd also fall under that umbrella. As they'd be uneeasonable to converse with in this regard. .-.
     
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    Then it's the game's fault that people get kicked out of pt, not mine -_-. New players should spend more time exploring the game instead of rushing mq and don't have a clue about anything.
    Chatting and explaining stuff that has technical terms & required long text are two different things. Just bc I'm used to it doesn't mean it's practical for me to use the chat system for this purpose.
    There are ppl who play this game with broken English. If they want to learn more but don't speak my language and aren't very fluent in English, what would you suggest me to do then? Do those ppl fall under the "reasonable" or "unreasonable" umbrella?

    Pt leaders have the right to kick ppl. Period.
     
  13. VangNir

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    I saw a build using
    Trigger slash > gattling knife (smite) > ender
    Is it very bad?
    Or you only sacrifice little proration for faster dps.
     
  14. HoboOnline

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    You sacrifice damage if you do trigger and gatling knife, do to physically proration. But you get the bonus motion speed from trigger. A work around would be using God speed wield, but if you're using ohs, you'll be very close and godspeed wield would need to be stacked three times to reach the same motion speed bonus from trigger slash.

    The damage drop off isn't too bad for trigger>Gatling, as party proration is so variable. It's only noticable if you're soloing.
     
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  15. The Brahmnic Boy

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    Hmmm? They should?
    This is a direct quote, and I mean the first line of the ULTIMATE BEGINNER GUIDE, given here:
    https://toramonline.com/index.php?threads/ultimate-beginner-guide.37004/

    Every single person - every single person I met on Toram who isn't a beginner, be it On Toram Reddit, Toram Forums, my Guild, everyone - has told me the same thing.
    Rush Main quest in Easy mode with OP merc.

    Dudes! Don't just tell us that level 150 gives OP skills, Make us earn them. Thank god I decided to take a simple merc and play on normal mode - and I am still only okay at party play.

    The point of an adventure game is to ducking explore, to go out of the quest path and just see what secrets lie, and I Always do that. It's you veterans who keep telling us to rush the MQ and not enjoy the story. By all means, I truly believe the Quest is the core of the game, and let me learn and enjoy it.

    Back when I was a little kid, fighting bosses in games was a challenge, we would try hard, and fail, then learn better, get better weapons and learn the bosses' techniques to finally defeat it using hard work and perseverance, and the feeling that I get when I finally win - that feeling is what I play games for.
    By telling us to 'cheat' by using Easy mode and Mercs, you take that wonderful feeling of winning - winning by effort - away from us newbies.
     
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  16. Balugbog056

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    its very bad if your decoy spammer. but if you compare it to impact+gatling+auto vs trigger+gatling+auto is better cuz trigger offer fast animation to easily switch to auto attack for proration
     
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