Do people still like having a mage in Pt?

I feel like the kid in dodgeball who always gets picked last. Like they only invite me because they have no other choice and they aren't so happy about it.

 

Two mages i dont like one is fine

 

Personally, mage is kinda outdamaged by 2hs dw and dt with their gsw always on
The only time I think where a mage can shine is when boss has high crit resist or high Eva

 

Depends on the situation, but most of the time I will pick at least one mage since I don't have faith in proration from other people

 

Yes that how i see it too. One mage for poration or high eva/guard boss.

I always like to go with tank , bow , mage and another physical class. 2 mages is kinda too much to be fair

 

Idm, I'm accustomed to fight with mages. ^_^

 

Only thing i don't really like with mages is when they steal banana's pillar aggro.

 

i don't like "finale only" mages. they usually miss a lot on moving bosses and take too long to recover.
and when they don't even use first aid even though they can, i hate them even more.

although when i'm playing my main character, i actually like them. they are unwillingly competing over the tank rank while i get attacker and/or breaker.
and when they die, i also get support since no one else dares to use first aid.

 

Hmm well i still prefer mages for mk over cf. They are more handy in gemruns as well.

 

from my past exp when playing a finale mage (who spam finale only), it doesnt really help in proration. that's like one magic attack in every 6 second, and with the fact that mage doesnt need to (help for) normal attack.
burst mage is more fun with this consideration.

 

having mage atleast 1 is fine. but i dont like finale glass cannon who desperate for matk boost (finale is not a mobility attacker)

 

The dying part will happen even with invincible skill for mages lol

The first aid thingy is not cuz of finale is lack of solidarity and idk why becuz it makes you suport 100%

 

Most mages I know casts Magic Arrow/Lance though, it's not like you are using Queen's Staff at this time anyway, and you can't just spam only Finale
Well, unless people doesn't give any sht about proration

 

There's a lot of sturdy mages out there that can survive most skill attacks where tanks can fail and die, but no matter how sturdy, most mages are weak to high damage normal attack.

While the attacker rank is tempting, the really best way to get it without ruining proration is to lock your mind to a teamwork mentality and don't try too hard to achieve it, you'll be surprise to get the attacker rank more times than intended.

Try to use finale right before your party throw in physical damage and skills, and youll be dealing higher finale damage the next time you use it, that way the magical and physical skills among the party alternately deals high damage.

I think its the mage job to fix a ruined proration as they can easily reset everything or cover up and take advantage of whoever is ruining it, but like physical proration, more than two mage in a party is also bad.

Maybe...

 

If running a team with competent physical DPS, a mage shouldn't really be using finale. It's slow and does nothing to help proration. Instead, the mage should be unloading magic attacks onto the enemy.

If the physical DPS is sub par? That's what you need a finale mage for. Let them prorarate whilst the mage drops em.

 

Both (finale) Mages and Archers have the problem that they can't really spam their dps skills and therefor will always loose to other classes in damage potential. But due to their main dps skills being AoEs they can be very useful for some boss fights.

In short: Besides bosses where AoE skills are useful the main reason for me to have a mage in the party is proration. But especially if I want fb I usually don't invite mages or archers because they usually don't tap (in my experience).

 

What the... tell those mages to tap, mages have high tap damage, if there is no tank, i initiate for full break using my shield skills. What is happening with the mages nowadays.

 

They don’t tap because most play long range and either can’t see or the tap icon is too small..... no excuse though but that’s my assumption anyways.

Back on point...... If the boss run is one where the battles are short , that is 1 minute or less, players will quicker not add mages in preference to like a dw build or what not. Most mages use finale as their main dps and that skill slow added with the fact it’s easy to evade , hence as my recommendation they need to have burst as their 2nd dps for more mobile bosses. Which is a difficult ask since the gear set up isn’t really ideal for both dps skills so a player may need to have different gear sets to effectively use both. At any rate imo a finale only mage is best built as a semi tank with int>vit so it can semi tank and still dps when needed .

 

Conclusion: Mage needs a rework