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Guild PvP

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by JDC, May 26, 2020.

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Are raid boss fun?

  1. Yes!

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  2. No.

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  3. A little...

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  1. JDC

    JDC Well-Known Member

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    To some, having PVP is awesome. But it has some good and bad effect towards the game or the community.

    So, to me, I would suggest to the devs(If ever I can), is to make a PvP less of a player to player combat, instead they will make a competition on how toram is,monster hunter style. "GUILD RAID". Instead of players fighting each other, we should make something that will fight for our behalf.

    The idea, raise a Guild Boss that uses resources from the guild itself(spina donation?, guild contri, and other materials from monster to make a chimera XD), the monster will then grow depending on the guild leader's choice, like having a high health, high def and high matk but low atk/low mdef. You can also design your own monster or just like capture a boss monster to be your own monster avatar. With this, the two guilds can compete in killing the opposing guild in the fastest time or just killing the different miniboss to go to the other area of the guild until the invading guild comes to the final boss(like the eternal maze or just call it guild maze, this may need more boss avatars and contribution) and can get rewards depending on the type of boss killed.

    With that, they won't need to adjust or add more restrictions to the game just for the sake of pvp.
     
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    1: make an alt account
    2: found a guild
    3: design an easy boss
    4: farm it with your main account
    5: profit

    and that's why this will never happen :p
     
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  3. JDC

    JDC Well-Known Member

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    IT CAN!, you just have to make a requirement to create a boss when you have a guild at level 5-10 XD, that will make it hard for them to abuse the system( UNO REVERESE CARD ) :D. also, the mats differ if you have few used for it. Fewer resources used, lower drop rate or non existent drops, stronger boss gives more and better rewards and can also increase drop rate(UNO REVERSE CARD AGAIN):D. Also, to make it competitively, you need to fight as many guild boss from different guilds to get many rewards, fighting the same boss won't increase your rewards(you can only fight the guild boss once then there will be a cooldown or just make it like killing the guild boss or finishing the maze after 5 times, the drop rate will start decreasing after every fight). Like for example, every week, guilds need to fight as many guild boss to get in the top rankings for better rewards(different from the monster drops), the more you kill, the better score you will have and rewards.
     
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  4. Xiavu

    Xiavu Lurking Overlord of LOVE[L.O.L.] Elite Member Epic Member

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    You do know that you can make so many loopholes out of that gig, it can be worn like an afro wig.
     
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    I also like the idea of having a guild vs guild competitions. Altho. my idea does not include fighting. They should make some daily guild task that will reward guild contri. points, so the guild members can be more active. Those contri. points should be able to trade for valuable items from a guild npc. Then make a ranking system so they can see what guild has the most points. Even tho. it was simple, players will surely try to make their guild on the top 1 of the rankings.
     
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    Restrict it to guilds lvl x+. Problem solved
     
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  7. JDC

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    Can you explain the loopholes in my comment?
     
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    That would be a guild contest. Not many players like that, it seems like a chore if you do it everyday.
     
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    I like your idea tbh, but not every part of it. First off I think the way of unlocking such function shouldnt rely on guild lvl alone, instead lock it behind a lvl and contribution threshold. Making a guild lvl 5-10 isn't hard even if you are the only person in the guild. However getting lots of contribution, like say 10k, requires team effort, and isnt insanely high.
    As for the chimera from monster materials part, I think it would be kind of unrealistic because if you want to fight it then it must have its own pattern and attacks; so its either never gonna happen or it'll be disapointingly limited. I thought it could be like, buy a boss/boss egg with contribution. If the bosses are already in the game than you dont have to make a completely new one, much less make a system that allows the amount of customization that i think would be awesome but not for this decade. We can dye pets so if you wanna be unique than there's that, just make a black and red/blue (insert boss you like that isn't hummanoind cuz it'd be weird to own York)and be done with it. Other than that I like the idea, maybe have it lvl up by battles and give it its own little space that can be decorated, like land but, by the leader/co's for everyone in the guild. Maybe train against your own guild boss for a small boost depending on GB lvl.
    Although some bosses have mini versions that can be pets soooooo
     
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    Yeah its more like a chore :p, I just want a way for the guild members to be online everyday. Anyway it does not really matters to me what kind of GvG competition it is, as long as it was fun & there is a good way to compete.
     
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  11. JDC

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    I didn't include everything, but what you said are a plus. This can improve the gameplay and can also make it harder to abuse the system.
     
  12. Xiavu

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    I have seen bots at cap level just by plain farming. Only thing steering them away at guild dungeons is plain profit. All they need is a good flex vid on how profitable a guild is and they be crapping guild names like factories (Don't be surprised, bot guild already exists long ago)
     
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    Still, making a guild and take it to lv5 or 10 is still harder than levelling a single char to max level. Also, making multiple accounts for multiple guild will increase their activity up to 10x, maybe 5% of the bots can achieve that
     
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    Close to an Agit War :bloodtrail:.

    This works too. Very much like the online game where the top guild gets the tax from sold items :bloodtrail:.
     
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    umm... maybe after the implementation of skills for mercen, we can make something like guild wars? like, set a bunch of guild members mercen to defend guild (the mercen will act as monster for attacker guild) with the winner of this guild war will get a small reward after depleting the loser guild contribution or whatever it is (and of course the restriction to prevent loophole exploitation). Tho the main problem will be how the heck suzuki will implement mercen skill system, and how vast is the skills variety will be.
    Well, if this can be implemented i'm pretty sure the game can become more lively and some still can flexing how OP their guild while the game still considered f2p
     
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    I shiver imagining a guild full of 10k power merc, spammin finale and meteor...
     
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    Indeed, guilds with chefs(high lvl food) is already dope. They must have a very high turn out on membership to keep guild contri upkeep.(if the weekly tribute is not met, a member is notified by mail and be booted off) i mean, they do have quality food and slaves/mercs. They have the right to kick all the lazy ones for not doing their chores.
     
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    Now that's what i call fantasy. It wont be enough without some strict or dark organization
     
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    I have been there dude. Altho in a much humane format(at least they give out 2 warnings and a weeks notice) plus one can always go back after the notification on the guild's fb page so everything is chill(altho the kick out process is usually hasten when there are a large number of applicants)
     
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