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Skill Reworks

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Phoenix。, Jun 25, 2020.

  1. mun1409

    mun1409 Well-Known Member

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    Follow the element of the skill that trigger it. Saw a vid which has ituse neutral n then blizzard for water with same equip. This mean finale will always trigger neutral ray huh.
     
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    Imperial Ray seems disappointing from what I've seen. No ailment just moderate AoE damage.

    They managed to make the cat even worse than before with advanced familia. Going to be a pain bringing a mage to a mini boss farm where you only pull 1 and the cat goes nah fak u and drags 10+1.

    Sicarious is a passive buff to boost backstab, expected that tbh.

    Shadow walk is seriously disappointing tho in that it only works with no agro.

    Edit: I stand corrected on imperial Imperial Ray :0
     
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  3. HoboOnline

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    For the Sicarius buff, at level 10. I am seeing my attack jump up from 3350 to 3849. And Back stab seems to be doing like an additional +30%.

    But I'll have to play around. I'm still a little confused with how they operate
     
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    Try spell burst with critical +300 and spam javelin, so far about 10 times will get 1 none-critical damage.
    If follow previous 100 CR = 25 MCR, then 300 CR = 75 MCR, but now seen like is about 90% at 300 CR, so I guess it’s do adjust upward to 30 MCR / 100 CR...

    if this correct mean we only need about 130 CR + Element Slash to get 100% MCR ( before need 140 CR ).....I feel no different tbh.
     
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    The Lost One THOT BEGONE AGENT Elite Member

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    dagger seems well compatible with knuckles specially the shadow walk skill that acts like flash blast. Knuckles has the fastest evasion recharge after all.

    It makes the knuckle dagger a DOT weapon class now because even without mana, it can still deal decent damage while trying to regain mp.


    I kinda like what they did on assassin skill tir 4 this time as what I have seen on this video.
     
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  6. Kaisyl

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    Don't get me wrong, shadow walk is nice, it just sucks that you need to be in a party or have a tank pet to use it.

    For a true DoT build to surface, they have to fix the mechanics of poison ailment and ignite ailment.
     
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    They totally left Arcane Strike out to die. Overall though, Assassin T4 are pretty good. About what I expected
     
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    The Lost One THOT BEGONE AGENT Elite Member

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    according to what @Phoenix。 said on the other thread that if you have the aggro and got hit while in shadow walk, you lose stacks which means only the invincible frame and the ability to earn a stack every manual evasion is being put in a halt. That doesn't mean the semi damage it gives during manual evasion is removed or am I wrong? The stack is for invincibility frame right?

    Invincibility is great but it is not reliable unlike meteor due to the required stack needed and the skill is bad for solos since you can't earn a stack when the boss aggro is on you.
     
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    The damage effect does not appear to trigger



    Meh... Well at least you can do a shadow walk + flash blast build for massive evasion damage...
     
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    I don't know if it's a good idea to combine those two considering both skills eat physical proration every evasion. That is more like the mana less version of tenryu like spamming.
     
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    Might work for a normal attacker build then?
     
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    to detonate imperial ray you need to cast any magic skill. element slash 6 md give 6 element to imperial ray and your main weapon dont need element
     
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    So when advanced familia spams skills, does it generate aggro with each spell he casts?
     
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    What was changed with Familia and Meteor Strike?
     
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    meteor has a shorter cast time
     
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    Guys, element slash still procs imperial ray if it misses?
     
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    nope, imo ether flare is better for those high dodge mobs z.z since it doesn't miss
     
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    just get both use ether flare for high dodge boss , use element slash if your accuracy is applicable to boss
     
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    aw thanks, element slash has an op animation and md based range, but it's no use if it misses, so ether flare is indeed way to go T_T
     
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    if your int dex just get both ether flare (high dodge) and element slash (low dodge) cuz element slash offer 50% more mcdmg to all magic and faster animation
     
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