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Modestia's armor??

Discussion in 'Katana' started by XCLS, Jul 19, 2020.

  1. XCLS

    XCLS Well-Known Member

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    best stats for an arm with modestia as the weap??
    been told to have
    STR+10% CD+10% CD+20 CR+20 AGGRO-15%

    or is there's something much more appropriate/better. tysm.
     
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    Oreki025 Well-Known Member

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    you don't need that cr+20 since modestia already gives +100 cr
    best one so far is atk10%, dex10%, cd 10%, cd 20
    though its a gamble, an dex 7-8% is the one with 100% success rate iirc
    go with str% if you go more str than dex
     
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    XCLS Well-Known Member

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    thx been clear to me now. however, what's the prio on the stat build with ktn rn? srry im a returnee and all I know is that dex>str is superior but on yt been seeing 247 dex and rest is str.. why's that?
     
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    in the past, where u can only max 1 stat and leave the other like half or less, str>dex works much better due to crit damage gain, and atk can gain easily with equips, also the stability gain from str is much more higher than dex, thus aiming for 100% stability, gaining little atk and high c.dmg will lead ktn to much better dmg.

    but rn since both can be hit on 250 and decide on 1 path again, and c.dmg is easy to get thanks to more higher custom statted equips, and ur lock 250 str, dex will be more viable on long run with higher atk gain and some accuracy that can help you non-graze on normal-hard mode, and sometimes even on nm mode with a boss with lower flee rate.

    so that 300 st>247 dex build for me is a no-no now, since 250 str can already lead you to 100% stability, and a pretty nice c.dmg already.
     
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    XCLS Well-Known Member

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    this clarifies alot.. almost all of the builds over yt has no explanation behind their shts and been wondering why.. tysm. so, only lock str at 250? and will still dex>str? or by ratio or just lock it at 250
     
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    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    247 str is the minimum, then the rest is dex. Though I'm not that keen into modestia build now that 5th anniv katana have a higher crit compared to prev version.
    Now it has 7% dex, 14% unsheathe, 7% srd, 15% physical pierce and 30 crit. The pierce is especially good for high defense bosses and the other stats are just so good to enhance your damage. Not to mention the anniv katana have 30+ more weapon attack. I'm still trying to get an anniv katana with 140+ atk, my highest is currently 137
     
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    most of yt builds don't really have explanation and follow what they believe or told so, that is why i don't rely there and research on my own or ask here on forums which is much better choice.
    yup just do 250 str, and put it on dex all of it, rn at cap 210 u can do 250 str and 297 dex.
     
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    Str>dex still provides more damage than dex>str. Not by much though, it‘s around 2% more damage. And more than 100% stability is worth a lot considering that even with dex you graze on almost all ulti bosses.
     
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    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    Except with both str>dex and dex>str, they can have 100% stability regardless with two handed passive. High base atk would be more of a factor on enemy's defense. I'm not sure if that 2% factoring this but I'm still leaning towards more base atk.
     
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    For example at 1.5k def str does 1.1% more dmg. At 3k def dex does 0.3% more damage. As long as you are not fighting very high def bosses exclusively str is the way to go.
     
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    I think that's the point for dex... even dex build grazes, whts more on str builds. and so with the difference on dmg would be null, coz graze decreases your output. does it? sorry I've forgotten the fundamentals on this game xD. is that how graze work? if so, then further the lvl of bosses(imeant as toram releases new monsters) surely grazes will be more often. so for the long end dex would be more beneficial.
     
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    In theory you are right. But in praxis you can barealy crit instead of graze on any of the new nightmare/ultimate bosses. So that renders the accuracy of dex useless. But since they started rebalancing str-dex for warriors and archers they might do it for katana as well....We'll see
     
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    oww im sorry if I forgot. do str gives crt rate too?? yeah back then crt resist bosses are just something we were preparing for and then modestia came, but yeah modestia isn't that handy due to its being outdated at some point and ele ktns are also a factor to consider. well, the food buff feature is a game changer idk hw mch further crt u can get from it but +eq and skills or some consumable buff should be enough, or even later on as the cap extends and with the introlusion of new items. but for crt resist bosses.. I guess it is really wise to have modestia, so u can focus crt dmg on ur eqs and etc. rather than being hassled with penetrating that crt resist(build wise I guess? weighing pros and cons to achieve a better output. like have an arsenal of eqs to change at your need. having only 1 set wouldn't really resolve anything and will inevitably have its endearing problems as each boss battles have different needs to navigate with. it is not the skills and stats that should adapt.. because eqs are the part of build where u can freely change.
    this is often disregarded. well mostly due with the incapability to attain the said eqs. but do note that it isn't the "build" thst hinders you but the eqs. idk, to prevent revision with ur build I guess. well this are merely my opinions coz i hate the cost and consequences of resetting haha. ain't enforcing everyone to do something but wnt them not to forgot the essence when building such builds. toram is an ever-progressive game, can be clearly seen at the mechanics of statter.). may I know wht u meant where they started rebalancing?? tysm.
     
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    I do agree tho. it's been 5yrs and accuracy is still a problem. well merely due it its initial concept coz accuracy in word should achieve precision over the target. whereas, crt rate is just a percentile for u to surely crt. well overall dex does indeed has really more benefits to katana rather than the selective bonuses with str.
     
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    hii just checking up if u got the anniv katana?? I've been pondering over wht katan to get. the npc one or the player made. thx
     
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    The NPC one is untradable, but the stats is as I had described. Currently the highest atk I got is 137 atk. 140 atk would be great.
     

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