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What's coming for Mage

Discussion in 'Mage' started by LapizLazuli07, Aug 13, 2020.

  1. AliceYvne

    AliceYvne Elite Member Elite Member

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    5500+1 charge still have 0.2 second Isn’t?
    (8000/6500) -1 = 1.2 - 1 = 0.2
     
  2. LapizLazuli07

    LapizLazuli07 Well-Known Member

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    oh wait sorry I remember wrong I checked my Reference again

    7750 Instant
    5500 2 Skills
    3250 3 Skills
    1000 4 Skills

    I think Im getting confused because I include the Impact before Burst in the combo in the charge
    So if I have 1k CSPD, I make 3 Charges of Burst before I do my Impact>Burst>Ender Combo
     
  3. Coffey

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    If you look at AkaKuro, he's doing interesting thing. Imperial Ray->Impact then Impact->Burst, two Impacts before Burst with 5.5k cspd.
     
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  4. LapizLazuli07

    LapizLazuli07 Well-Known Member

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    Oh I forgot this existed
    Thanks for showing

    It is important to note however that AkaKuro has 2s equip. Nonetheless, the combo is really nice. I'll try to see if I can incorporate this into build
     
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    It's leading to the path where knuckles mains and magic devices users live in perfect harmony. Mage will be a toram myth someday.
     
  6. LapizLazuli07

    LapizLazuli07 Well-Known Member

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    Wdym?
    KnuxMD is going to be the next thing for farming. Making main MD obsolete.
    But I don't understand how mage will be a myth
     
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    Perhaps he means mage as main/heavy damage dealer? Since mage's dps seems kinda lacking compares to the current dps builds.

    Since mostly i see shining cross meteor breaker crossfire satellite arrow dragon tooth bla bla bla spamming and boss dead in seconds, meanwhile finale damage comes in long-periodic pulses and burst is like shaving slowly with mp charge maximizer in the middle.
     
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    I dont know if you ever play mage seriously and then play some other physical dps class and like wow why would i play mage in the first place like how pathetically weak mage really are. Yeah it needs lots lots of changes but then asobimo release wizard skill I love how it doesn't solve anything at all.
     
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  9. LapizLazuli07

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    Im mage main and I am really passionate about it
    Damn this is really saddening. Though I dont think Mage is pathetically weak smh.

    It is already the reality that Physical can do more damage much faster.

    I just hope something good happens to mage.
     
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    Wanna be a mage? Go 2h Enchant... oh.
     
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    Finale can do like 3.5m and thats without dmg to ele, mages are still strong, but only 1 or 2 mages should be in a party imo
     
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    Do we still need elemental staves for that .5 magic crit buff from weaken?
     
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    To apply Weaken you need sub MD with element against boss. You can have whatever in main hand. Ele/damage to ele staff will increase damage.

    Here you have DTE Finale with Elemental Slash for crit finale



    Anyway I'm starting to consider Knux/MD for Imperial Ray. New bosses are aoe spamfest and Forefist Punch/God Hand look like nice saves. What you guys think?http://coryn.club/stat_calculator.php?code=111425f3d4baaab468
     
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  14. LapizLazuli07

    LapizLazuli07 Well-Known Member

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    Thing about mage is, the advantage is in the utility and capability. Mage has lots of Skill Points to spare unlike other classes. MP Regen isnt a big issue. It can survive even with just INT. Neither does it suffer the debuff of the 2nd row of support auras (Brave Aura, High Cycle, Quick Motion esp.)
    But without being able to easily do the big numbers damage of Physical classes especially CF, Mage gets underappreciated. (Especially in an increasingly toxic ideology of Pure Damage and nothing else matters)
    (Which is sad. Mage is very capable.)
     
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    Are you saying that I can still get the cr and cd buff from weaken without having to have ele staves just the md?

    Also speaking of that video, I tried doing the same as what he she did with max motion and main sub ele but still couldn't manage to get it on time like just how lol
     
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    Yeah but it requires you lots of time, and luck because sometimes bosses would simply move and you left with nothing but sadness.
     
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    With gsw it takes around 5secs, and ive always been quite lucky hitting with finale, like if i know the boss is gunna charge somewhere ill start combo when hes just about to charge
     
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    This 134CR actually sounds too good to be true, I made one myself with ele sub md and it looks like I'm still not always doing critical hits except for Element Slash itself after weaken is inflicted.
     
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    Turns out as you see here it's an if statement, means you need 200cr atleast to always do critical hits with the two, weaken cr buff overwrites the one from spellburst so these two don't get combined.

    I wonder what would it be for the magic cd, this was written before the skill adjustment of spellburst(25% > 75%cd) so not sure if they just pulled that 50%cd from weaken and added it as passive for spellburst or its another 50%cd.
    [​IMG]
     
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