[Fun]Worst skill tree in the game?

Yes we are playing same game where a child is man and lolis have super massive boobs.

 

This! I embarked on the quest to build a viable 1h shield build with 25% motion without gsw but I noticed that with the same build replaced by a 2h I did more damage everytime. 1h really needs a unique skills like the stun one.

 

Then you're under the impression of the game being fully classful, and fully party based. On your example then blacksmith skills are useless since you don't have any use of them in battle. Like "hey guys Im a luk mage so my damage sucks". Yes toram isn't exactly classless with all the main skill tree but these sub skill tree offers skills that you can actually use. So yeah every skills has a practical use, you simply dont use them cause the skill point limit and the meta. I mainly build tank all these years and i could say that there are a lot of useful skills that is nice to have given certain situations. That's due to tanks being out of dps meta and have the flexibility of having those skills without impending the effectiveness of the role itself. I use everything on my tank, dancer skills, support skills, minstrel(yes though its only ad-lib), shot skills(decoy, moeba, paralyze shot when needed). Magic skills such as magic javelin, impact, and magic:wall. Even dark skills in sacrifice and magic swordsman skills in coversion(to get higher tap power). Heck I would even take shell break if only I had enough skill points. I'd also get those tamer skills with pet mp charge if I feel like doing tanking with pets as the offense. The problem is the skill point limit. I could never have enough sp on my tank If I want to get all those skills.

Just because you don't play the game outside of the meta doesn't mean those trees are useless. I'm pointing out the minstrel tree as the worst skill tree because they simply have no synergy with other skill trees and have a vague role be it as a main skill tree as a support or a sub skill tree to complement your build but they still not totally useless. Yes, one useful skill does make a whole tree useful. It's just there's a degree of synergy with the other skill tree. Really, I'm not a pet user but your take on tamer skill makes you seem dumb. Good pets offers some buffs and could tank when you dont feel like partying up with others. For example to farm these event bosses on inter 3with no people around and the int 1 is full. Its more of an ignorant take than anything


On a side note, about sleep trap? One use of it is for soloists to buy enough time to cast their buffs such as kairiki, gsw and brave aura.

Yes, I'm feeling like a bit toxic today and those were part rants. So I'll keep my post civil as much as possible cause that pic you posted makes my blood boil if you really being serious about your response.

 

I agree with all skills having a use but from a soloist PoV, I really can't agree with that sleep trap mainly because of bosses which start the game right off with AoEs, some on spam which makes more sense to go mirage evasion and just time your buffs, if you have so many, in between it.

Sleep heals bosses which is the main reason I hate the ailment -_-" especially solo, otherwise it'd be pretty great at doing what stop should've done.

Tho I have to ask, what buff takes so long to add that you need sleep trap?

 

All buffs can be applied without. It‘s just faster if you can do all in the beginning instead of during dodging. Usually in a solo it‘s: 3*GSW, Quick Aura and Brave Aura. Depending on the class/build War Cry/Flash Blast as well. But I totally agree, sleep trap would be a super fun and very usable skill if they removed or at least drastically lowered the heal

 

reading all of this make me thinking that the developers just lie about "free role".
small radius trap easily destroyed by AoE anytime lol.
at first i played this, it is work on decel but nowdass knowing the reality you need to stick on meta or you are mmeehhhhh [has been kicked on the party]

 

Knowing the tier 4's, my vote is for Wizard Skill Tree. Literally EVERY skill except blizzard and stone barrier are reliable, I think they just added tier 4 only for entertainment purposes

 

Main weapon skill tree
#1 Martial(only close range wep without invincibility skill)
Sub skill
Hunter skills sucks. Only sunrise arrow/sat arrow are useful.
Wizard skill. Blizzard is the best skill here yet overthrown by storms on high lvl mob farming.
Dagger skill aint that useful since assassins t4 came

 

Priest skill tree is the worst.

 

Yeah Wizard objectively maybe not be the worst but it is the worst for me because gives us false for us mage main a false and my heart broken every time I think about it. Mage seriously needs a buff but asobimo drop this abomination unto us and yeah Im still bitter about this until this day.

 

Wizard (Save for Blizzard and Stone skin)

Mana crystal is overshadowed by maximizer, there is no damn reason to take it (Unless support char)
Lightning dmg is just too low and only viable to use on lower lvl mob
I don't know what the hell Suzuki on his mind when designing meteor, it has shit damage and a fucking rng to hit your target
Advanced familia is shit. The dps skills itself inherently crap, now you make your cat cast random shit on your enemy. Yeah, it's really damn fun when your cat cast 3 meteor in a row

Seriously, at this rate i think Suzuki only designed this skill because "its looks cool"
Playing mage is hard enough already considering the bosses.
Instead of fixing mage, they implement this crap

 

Human family tree worst tree ever

 

Priest is pretty good now...it's the players who suk...they complained toran doesn't have good heal skills...now we have 500 heal bless and royal heal ye I rarely see even mages use them. 500 per tick is similar to having regera 5 on. Saying dis , I remember all dps are gsw glass canon these days so everything is moot (

 

how much matk is needed for 500 a tick??o-o
royal heal is good but better with a high cspd n high hp character for higher n faster heals

i wish they kept the innate magic pierce holy light had before :/ and ether barrier is just bad - needs high cspd and only lasts for such a short time z.z

 

About the priest skill... Many ppl just don't know the proper execution of the skills. They're 101% useful:
-Bless and Royal Heal, it AFFECTS pets and mercenaries. Good for lvling circumstances
-Gloria, have you all ever tried to guard Gespenst II's epicenter? It's super reliable coz your guard will climb from 0-100 real quick
Most of all:
ETHER BARRIER, I saw many ppl complaining this skill is useless. But if it's in the right combo, you can finale at Gespenst II's SPIKES, yes you really can.
Main combo goes like this:
Ad-lib>ETHER BARRIER(swift)>Finale(swift)
Then you may add ...>mp charge(swift)>maximizer(cons)
Yes, it's a 2000 MP combo, but it is 100% reliable against flinch at lv10 ether barrier. Better have a 2000 MP combo than watching your dps end the boss' phase (e.g. crystal beast and gespenst II)

 

It's dangerous to do a 2000mp combo for mages since they need mp to be useful in the party, and a lot of their skills are mp heavy plus they do not get mp as to how physical dps users get theirs, unless you use an ampr mage build. Also the mp charge time cannot be removed, as such time is wasted and you are leaving yourself open to attacks i. e. If you don't have high hp or pres/mres.
Moreso, if the finale isn't enough to one hit kill the boss. Finale damage is good, but it's not reliable if you're dealing damage every 6-10seconds and you're lacking mobility to evade possible 1hko from bosses. If you compare it to a regular finale user who can do the skills 2 times within that span of time to cover damage and prorate, using ether reduces your efficiency in a party.

Priest's Bless and Royal Heal is very situational in use. Bless needs a very high matk to make the regen heal ticks worth it in a party. And not all party members are open to party hp regens, that's why team coordination is important. However, it is a good combo filler. Not all DPS users have gsw, as well as glass cannon. And even then they'd priorizite not getting hit at all thats why evading/iframes/timing is crucial, cause 1 hit instant death. Should ever a DPS get hit, item or their hp regen skill take precedence. Item cooldown won't matter much since it would rarely activate if the dps knows what they're doing. Or a support can cast immediate healing to the party member. Bless is good, in that it reduces stress for the healer but the effectiveness and usage to your current party is questionable. Imo the extra 10 sp points to max the skill and EBless could have been better allocated in other skill trees. But if you have spare, I guess why not have it.

Royal heal has a high mp costs, needs 3k cspd, and need to be in proper <= 8m range to receive the heal. It is an OP skill, but I would still say Heal from the Support skill is a must and the heals from Priest are optional, in terms of utility. I do use Royal Heal, but I don't get to cast it much often as I would like. Mostly Heals does the trick and for me as support player, I think mp regen/speed/res/atk/def buffs for the party is a lot more important.

 

Actually the only way for this game to improve is if Asobimo has one of their staffs listening to their playbase outside of Japan's feedback (Ofc the person need to understand English)

 

They have......if you ever send an email to ask asobimo support, you should know they always return an email with proper English.

 

4375 ? With 300 int.

 

i see thank you