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4 new skills for Knight Skills tree.

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Momoeater, Sep 22, 2021.

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  1. Momoeater

    Momoeater Well-Known Member

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    I did say 1hs is bit faster lol.
     
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    Momoeater Well-Known Member

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    But since I won't be using any of those skills anyway.
    So I won't do any more research.
    Doesn't suit my playstyle.
    Will wait for lvl 5 skills.
     
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    Momoeater Well-Known Member

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    Quite disappointing it's not even lvl 5 skills, it lvl 6 skills! Jk lol
    I'm not fond of using 1hs anyway so, I don't care how good the skills are.
    The character bends forward so much I just hate using 1hs, it looks so terrible.
    Forward bend wise, least bend is of barehands, then in middle is knuckle and bow and the highest bend is of 1hs, that why I hate using 1hs, it's like your back is broken like an old man. Lol
    While other weapons don't have bending stance in battle mode, probably some more.

    I was expecting a skill that could be used with other weapons. But there isn't any new one, so quite disappointing for me.

    It's not even lvl 5 skills, why should I care.
    Best wait for lvl 5 skills.

    Yeah in games I focus not just on powerful skills, but also how my char looks while using those skills or how my char looks while wielding a weapon.

    Skills and high dmg is not an issue for me.
    So I like to focus on something extra and more.
    Like my char looks and design and how cool it feels to wield certain weapons, and whole bunch of blah blahs.
     
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    i think it is 20% when you take dmg from a enemy that you have aggro and are attacking that enemy
     
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    Hm, I dont even know if I was expecting something actually worthwhile or idek. Still had 14 free sp on my knuckle tank but then seeing all the skills being ohs exclusive? Well, f u 2 sir :confused:
    Tbh even if interrupts are faster or as people say more aggro and stuff alike, that wouldnt make me grind 200+ lvls for remaking a tank char from scratch. Aggro is wasted because you can just get 50+ from food buff. Motion speed? Why bother. The only thing I'm not so sure about is armor break? For example my tank is auto def break and this is my aspd.
    Screenshot_20210917_205846_b42843d3a70b815a618a9d49e017934f.jpg
     
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    The Lost One THOT BEGONE AGENT Elite Member

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    People sure are picky
     
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    Most complaints are about knux tanks being useless though imo, if you're still using knux tank at this point, you kinda deserve it.

    The skills are lackluster but that's just due to the severe overlap with other existing skills, except that knight buff, that one's awesome.
     
  8. Momoeater

    Momoeater Well-Known Member

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    Look not everyone got orbs to buy resets currently.
    So most players will wait for free resets then they will switch or whatever.
    It not about knuckle being useless, it's about not able to switch.
    That making people to reconsider.
    Won't be an issue if there was free resets.

    Devs are also dumb enough to not understand when exactly they should release new skills and when free resets.
    It should be together. Lol

    And I'm not fond of tanks, I'm only interested in soloing and high dmg stuff and all.
    So I'm not interested in commenting when it comes to tanking.
     
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    Lucifere Angel of Rebellion Elite Member

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    They know but they want to use ur money on books for em
     
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    Well, the skills for tanking are heavily favoured for sword users. Bowgun is a nice ranged tank and knux is just that one guy who basically decides to go for a fist instead of a sword.

    Knux doesn't have anything over sword other than ailments, maybe? Yeah not really.

    They really suck when you look at all the available skills when compared to 1h for tanking. Why people still go knux for tanking? Idk.

    Ailments aren't even that useable withput watching for some hidden counter mechanic.

    It looks like they want to set knux up as a tank-dps but katana does that much better already.

    Knux/Shield might be able to work as a skill based tank dps?
     
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    Momoeater Well-Known Member

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    Interesting
     
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    Thanks a lot for this. I was about to cry when Kaisyl regarded knux tenks as maniacs. I PLAY IT BECAUSE I CAN'T PLAY AS KNUCK DPS CONSIDERING THE SORRY STATE OF ITS SKILLS. I just want to punch stuff..... :oops:
     
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    Momoeater Well-Known Member

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    It's not difficult to get dps out of knuckles.
     
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    I still hold that they suck compared to 1h which can do the same as knux thanks to impact, thrust(new), sonic wave itself.

    Hard hit is faster than smash, shield cannon/shield bash is faster than bash.

    Sonic thrust provides mp regen now when target is resistant.

    Yes knux tanks are crazy for going pure tank now. 1hs does their job better.

    As for dps, they suck, that's a given. Cpunter style is better suited for katana which has str growth, normal dps game is weak, atk growth too smol, they also have no mp regen unless you go knux/md.

    Gg knux, gg.
     
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    Yeah you use sonic thrust for mp regen only. Lol
    The talk is about tank class, where you taking the conversation.lol

    You don't need to be so frustrated over sonic thrust penalty.
    Who even uses bash as a tank?

    It obvious that a tank would always use shield, so shield cannon is always used.
    There is no point talking about bash skill.

    And hard hit is like what 0.5 sec faster?
    You don't need to cry over that.

    Smash is fast enough.
    You won't perform any different.
     
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    Well, with all that the roles align except for 1hs now having more suitable tools for tanking. Knux now is just that guy that punches stuff, they gud, yes but comparitively weaker.

    So, it's like watching two of apples at the same price. One is brown and moudly, one is a bright red and ripe. You then buy the moudly one and complain. So yeah, they're freaking maniacs.

    This is like those asinine retail customers.
     
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    Sonic thrust needs to hit for mp recovery, if it misses or evaded, it won't heal mp.
    Without dex build it won't work great, or use minds eye.
     
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    Minds eye it is, not too hard to make a combo for a build which doesn't need damage
     
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    From this I didnt see anything that would make a ohs better tank than a knuckle tank. Mp regen? Knuckle have plenty. Also knuckle tank can autoatk from 8-10m with magic skill tree.
    +Armor break.
    Its just that the fract buff to be ohs only is kinda not so nice. Then again, it wont help that much but still.
     
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    Knux have plenty MP Regen? Are you talking about decoy shot? That thing has only 2m, most bosses move. That's useless most times except for stationary or really slow bosses.
    Or perhaps shell break? With 50% chance it's not too bad but with most players going bow+ arrow, good luck with that armor break to proc MP regen unless you solo play? Well if you have chase attack, good luck when chase attack procs and you get no MP regen from shell break.
    Or perhaps you mean aggravate? You know, +5 AMPR isn't bad, maybe you can disregard the fact that most avatars can give you that with no effort. Also, with no fractional defences, good luck when the boss drops a self centered fractional AoE.
    What could you possibly be talking about when you say knux tank has plenty MP regen?

    Every build can get a 8-10m attack range.
     
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