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该死 or MUST DIE! Build @ Level 110 Cap

Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by TokiXKiru, Nov 20, 2016.

  1. TokiXKiru

    TokiXKiru Well-Known Member

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    Hi, my name is FsIV and today, I am going to share with you my brawler build.
    It is based from @Precaria Infinite MP Tank/Maze build and has done an amazing job to create a fluid combo to hold Bosses. This build is still undergoing testing.
    Skills in red are essential for damage. Skills in blue are essential for tank. Skills in purple are if you have extra to spare.

    Check out who is MUST DIE! @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUST_DIE!

    Build difficulty: ~ 4/5 ~ Benefit of tanking and dealing damage
    Gear cost: 5/5 ~ Between slightly to very expensive.
    DPS rating: 4/5 ~ Tank focus and aggro holding.
    Aggro: 5/5 ~ Aggro is generated super fast due to unlimited swift combo repetitions.
    Utility: 4/5 ~ (Not) Flawless Tank, (Not) Expert Breaker (because you have to consider gunfu/staff fu/sword fu/2H spammer/Impact sniper)
    Fun: 5/5 ~ (It should be) Really fun.

    template taken and edited from http://toramonline.com/index.php?th...uckle-shield-pure-tank-build-lv110-cap.14305/ @Precaria

    Requirements:
    - Have at least one character over Lv70.
    - Achieve all the skill point emblems. (In case you are missing one check the SP emblem guide)
    - Max your Combo Level.

    MUST DIE! Tank
    BUILD RATING: ★★★★ (tbh because 5-stars is too much)
    [Knuckle+Shield Mortal Combat / Endless MP Supply]
    AGI: 203 & STR: 93​



    Skills

    Martial
    Smash 5

    Bash 5
    Sonic Wave 5
    Earth Bind 5
    Triple Kick
    10
    Shell break 10
    Heavy Smash
    10
    Martial Mastery 5~10
    Martial Discipline 5~10
    Aggravate
    1

    Battle Skills
    Attack Up 10
    Smash 10
    Crit Up 1~10

    Shield Skills
    Shield Mastery 5
    Shield Bash
    5
    Shield Cannon 10
    Guard Strike 1

    Knight Skills
    Assault Attack 1


    Survival Skills
    Short Rest 5
    HP boost 10
    Fighter's High
    5
    HP Regen 5

    MP boost 10
    Sober Analysis 1

    Equipment:
    KNUCKLE
    ○ Jamadha+C^ Stats: AGI +7%, Cd+11%,Cr+11,C11%
    ~ ◇Black Knight Of Delusion
    ~ ◇Pillar Golem
    SHIELD

    ○ Pillar Golem Shield +E^

    ARMOR

    Light Sakura Kimono+C^ Stats: AGI +7%, ATK +7%, Cr +11/Cd +11% ~ ◇Boss Roga / ◇Tortuga (Compul for Boss Roga, if you have a 2-slotted armor set a Tortuga too)

    ADDITIONAL GEAR
    Nurethoth Mask +C^ ~ ◇Grylle

    SPECIAL GEAR
    Knights Talisman~ ◇Stone Mercenary



    MUST DIE! Combo System

    'Never Say Die' Combo
    Smash > Shell Break (Save) > Sonic Wave (Swift) > Assault Attack (Swift) > Shield Bash (Swift) > Heavy Smash (Cons)
    [MP cost: 100 / CP used: 8-10]

    taken from http://toramonline.com/index.php?th...uckle-shield-pure-tank-build-lv110-cap.14305/ @Precaria
    'Eden'
    Use right after you recovered 4 MP from inflicting Guard Break. In case you Guard Break again repeat this combo.
    Smash > Triple Kick (Tenacity) > Heavy Smash (Smite) > Shell Break (Cons)
    [150% Heavy Smash 2x, +10% Stability / MP cost: 400 / CP used: 6]
    * Smash can be swapped for Assault Attack vs. non-flinch bosses.
    taken and edited from http://toramonline.com/index.php?th...rtial-sniper-high-dps-hybrid-lv110-cap.13072/
    'Ronin'
    Smash > Shell Break (Save) > Triple Kick (Smite) > Sonic Wave (Conecutive)
    [MP cost : 100 / CP used: 6]
    taken from http://toramonline.com/index.php?th...ttacker-breaker-build-berseker-brawler.16391/
    'Hyperion'
    Smash > Shell Break (Save) > Triple Kick (Tenacity) > Sonic Wave (Smite)> Heavy Smash (Tenacity)











    MUST DIE! Suicide kit:
    Shock Absorbing Cream:
    Guard Rate +7%, Guard Power +7% & VIT +7
    Stab-Proof Sheet: Physical Resistance +5%
    Magic Barrier Wand: Magic Resistance +5%
    Vita Plus III: MaxHP +1500
    Magiadd III: our cheap solution for low mana. MaxMP +300.
    * The effects of these substances work for 30 minutes.


    taken from http://toramonline.com/index.php?th...uckle-shield-pure-tank-build-lv110-cap.14305/ @Precaria

    Thanks to the effect of the Martial skill Shell Break (regen 400 MP when inflicting Guard Break) and inspiration from Precaria's GunFu and Infinite MP Tank Builds, I could create the MUST DIE! Build. This build recovers more MP than it consumes and even deals fatal damage! A decent MP regenerator. It holds and generates unlimited aggro due to it's infinite MP supply, interrupts the target all the time and with Guard Break effect it allows yourself and the party to deal higher damage!

    Enjoy the fighting! ;)


     
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  2. Isra

    Isra Cock and Ball Torture Elite Member

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    Imma be that asshole who questions things:

    why stone merc if youre using light armor? itd make more sense to either A] Heavy armor or B] Violacoon instead (same stats but eva not guard) Goovua also works
    BS craft shield?
    Why BKD and not something like glef or nurethoth, or go for hp with a zega? The atk boost is good but str is wasted.
    Light kimono with stats or stats/kimono? App isnt necessary
    What if I have a 2s talisman or 2s nure mask (hypothetical) I just use grylle annd s.merc? Or what else would i use, Viscum, Eerie, maybe Ooze or SG?
    No force and Magic Shield for extra HP?
    Why Tortuga over Arco? This isnt to pick apart the build this is an actual question.

    Hope I wasn't too harsh, I was just asking a bit
     
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    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    U may wanna invest in guardian aswell and take out smash (battle skill), sober analysis, fighters high and lower attack up, those are next to useless on tanks and the majority of builds
     
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    Isra Cock and Ball Torture Elite Member

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    Fighter's high isn't too bad, nor is Sober. Unless you have a high ampr build and your hp is really good and you're well timed with interupts
     
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    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    Fighters high only heals around 0.5% per 3secs and sober at lvl 10 only gives u 10mp per 3secs
     
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    WindSlash Guardian Angel of Picos Elite Member

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    @Unlikely From my understanding, he's trying out a guard and eva tanking build.
     
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    Isra Cock and Ball Torture Elite Member

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    Better than nothing, and the diiference is more obvious on builds with higher Hp/Mp. Not gonna get into since this aint the place and you know waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than me XD
     
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    WindSlash Guardian Angel of Picos Elite Member

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    My question is, 294 total stat points? XD You have 1 left lol
     
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    Isra Cock and Ball Torture Elite Member

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    Why 2 conflicting things in one build? And wouldn't the AGI ruin Eva and Guard anyways?
     
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    WindSlash Guardian Angel of Picos Elite Member

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    Remember, this is a tank. Getting misses is good, getting guard is good, getting evasion is good. Eva, dodge, and guard on a tank is a good strat imo. Layers and layers of defense.


    A misconception in this game right now is you have to go full eva if you want to be evasion tank. That's not true at all. As a tank, you should strive to get as much advantage as you can get. Heck, tanks should do Dodge-Parry-Eva-Guard build really. :v
     
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    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    Fighters high still useless even at 32k hp, sober still regains 10mp even at 2k mp :p, tho with decent tanking knowledge and skills, guardian will benefit everyone more and even protection and aegis, but i dnt really like copied builds myself because it puts a limiter on u and if a guide isnt updated some ppl will get stuck on what to do next etc, test stuff, be unique, aim to surpass
     
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    TokiXKiru Well-Known Member

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    Lol deal with it. I have Kimono Fetish
     
  13. Neo Frame

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    I saw BK's vid on Fighter's High test and I agree with him, not worth it. It only makes u high anyway. Being high when battling isnt good at all.
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    That doesnt work,
    A light armor gives +10% evasion but also gives -10% guard rate high guard power shields like relief will have their guard rate canceled.
    A heavy armor gives +10% guard but also gives -10% evasion rate evasion is tough to achieve itself will need to use stuff like lightweight dagger and mole eyes which give terrible nega.
    If you are gonna use normal armor you can gain boosts from reflex and guardian at the same time but then u will miss out extra dodge from light armor.
    Parry is not that great since we dont know how to increase its power and rate.
    If you are trying to get everything you will end up getting nothing ^^
     
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    Heavy armour +5% g,rate 10% g,power -10% eva
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Without shield* :3
     
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    WindSlash Guardian Angel of Picos Elite Member

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    I agree, trying to get everything, you will end up getting nothing is true... Only if you start off so small. >.>

    Relief Shield doesn't even have high guard rate to begin with, so that's not going to be the right equipment for the ideal of becoming "everything". ^^
    Black Shield of Delusion(32% Guard Rate), Gladiator Armor(10% Evasion, 10% Guard Rate +10%), and Mole Eyes (+10% Guard Rate, 10%Evasion) would be the standard staple of becoming "everything". That's 62% Guard Rate, 20% Evasion without remodeling armor, and excluding skills such as Light/Heavy Armor Mastery, Guardian, Reflex, and Parry. If you use light armor remodeling, that's 52% Guard Rate, 30% Eva and can be further improved to 40%evasion using Light Armor Mastery.

    52% Guard Rate, 40%Eva, and we're not even delving into xtals yet either, and not even into 2-slotted equipment. If you can use two slot equips, we can theoretically also stack up Forestia with Tortuga on armor AND Violacoon with Stone Mercenary on special gear. That's +13 Guard Rate +13 Evasion

    Yes, the damage reduced might not be that much thanks to lower Guard Power Value, but that can be overcome by refining shield armor and add gear so that's not really a problem atm. Also, I believe Asobimo will not just stop at 32% Guard Rate 10% Guard Power Shield. There will come a time when the game releases a shield with 35+% Guard Rate 35+% Guard Power in the future. >.>

    But at the end of the day, this isn't about becoming "everything". The point is, if you can stack up multiple layers of defense, as a tank, if you are willing to put in a huge amount of time, resources, and effort in it, DO IT. Using Dodge as your primary form of defense is a viable strategy to me. (depending on the boss ofc) Now if the Original Poster wants to follow that up with guard and evasion, it's gonna take a lot of effort that, frankly speaking, a lot of people will see as unnecessary.
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    -clears throat-
    Ok first of all calm down, your entire calculation is off.
    -->Black shield, gladi armor and mole eyes total is 52% guard rate not 62% and 20% evasion
    -->After remodelling to light armor it becomes 42% guard rate and 30% evasion
    -->I already tested this armor mastery skills only add 5% guard rate and 5% evasion rate
    -->so total became 42% guard rate and 35% evasion rate
    -->Tortuga+forestia+viola+stone = +9%evasion and +9% guard rate not 13%
    -->So total becomes 51% guard rate and 44% evasion rate
    -->Since guard rate is pretty much useless coz only 10% reduction from it and you were not able to get sanctuary either coz u maxed useless skills like parry which too has like 40% activation rate and 20% reduction chance
    -->You are clearly forgetting the most important stat for tanks and thats aggro% with all the guard rate and evasion rate stats all over the place u only have total +16% aggro and will need a 2 slotted knights talisman which will in turn need to be pierced coz 2slot are not possible for npc crafting, now if you are a sword tank you can get the aggro sword but what about knuckles tanks you sacrificed so much hp% and resistance% on your gears, in this game sanctuary makes life of a tank easier if they get hp but instead it got sacrificed now your tank will have almost 13k hp even with hp boost so many skills that need to be maxed its easier said than done
     
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    該死 is dammit, not 'must die'

    'Must die' is more like 去死 (go die)
     
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