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1h+shield tank better or knuckle tank?

Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by Raikiri, Nov 11, 2018.

  1. Raikiri

    Raikiri Member

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    Which tank will be better 1h or knuckle?
    I guess 1h tank has better survivalist and knuckle has more interrupts.
    Don't know which one would be better
     
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    Probably 1h, bosses are getting more resistant to interrupts, and 1h has better ampr and hp recovery
     
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    Ok ty
     
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    The 1hs tank is better in holding aggro thanks to knight skills. Knuck tanks are better for breaking parts and farming break only boss mats.
     
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    You can play both, changing between 1h and knux to match your foes. ^_^
     
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    tbh i felt knucks got a more better skills for mp management with SB, chakra, aggravate, plus with their passives for aspd, +ampr and motion speed, they can have a better ampr results from auto atks vs 1H. Both can use Pdef, fighters high, bless, heal skills, and with MA Earth bind's HP heals, i can say they got a more better HP recovery skills. just my opinion.
     
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    1h can hold aggro much better via rampage/berserk/meteor (w/ save tag) but misses out on a 100% tumble skill.
     
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    So should I make a knux tank?
     
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    i never suggest any types of weapons to players who asked me coz game is so flexible any weapon can do any roles , can use any stats, skills, gears, playstyle, etc that might suits you. Its like you trying to ask me who you are when nobody knew yourself better than you do. And not because what i have works for me it means it will work for you too. infact you may even discover something better. i always advised to know the class on your own. that alone is one of the exciting part that playing mmo can offer that can make you keep on playing and not getting bored.
     
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    Agreed. All the info you need to choose is in this thread but you gotta make that leap yourself! If you don't like it, delete char and try again. :rolleyes:
     
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    Ok thank you
     
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    yeah and all weapons got their own skill's description which is available everywhere. by just reading them alone we can tell what are the strengths of the weapon so its up for us to decide what we will choose and what are we willing to sacrifice or get it from somewhere else (xtal, gears, buffs, stargems, etc) to compensate on what the build lacks.
    Plus if i suggested him a weapon/skills/build and in the future it turned out im scratching that idea, wouldn't that will pissed him off coz he spent time, spina, or real money to follow that idea? all might be for nothing coz it'll be like he will start from scratch again:fail:
     
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    List that can affects survival:
    • Knowing boss patterns of atks your 1st line of defense (move)
    • Pdef skills
    • Interrupt skills when used at the right time can save you and your party as well from huge hits
    • Skills
    • Hp potions ( revitas, bottles, buffs, etc)
    • Gears
    Both weapons can be good at that list. Whatever tank build you choose game got so many ways to survive so it should come automatically even a dps thats good at 1st and 3rd list can survive even solo. But there are something that separates both roles in all mmo. Thats for you to find out for yourself coz there's also more to tank than just surviving.
     
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    Ty^^
     
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    Knuck Tanks -> MTL > VIT, Shell break will be small DPS with twin Eagles. 700 ATK possible hahahaha

    Master boss patterns, and pdef timing. You'll be a god knuck tank.

    MP Sustainence Combo -> Starter (assault attack) -> Sanctuary (Save) -> chakra (Consec) -> Decoy shot (swift)
    Guardian Combo -> Starter -> Chariot (Save) -> Guardian swift
    General Combo -> Starter -> War cry -> Shell break (Smite) -> ender

    Have your Various interrupts on separate quick slots as well as PDEF
     
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    some stuff that wasn't mentioned yet:

    aggro is based on mp cost. additional aggro from knight skills is unaffected by aggro% stats.
    most of them require a sword, but provoke is usable by all. knuckles can compensate with aggro% stats, but this limits your gear options.

    p.def just requires a shield, so it can be used by both.

    knuckles have have a speed advantage, since they are agi based. 1h has an accuracy advantage, since they are dex based.

    knuckles hp recovering attack is obtained earlier and costs less, it also has more utility with stop. 1h's hp recovery attack recovers more hp and has longer range.

    =(^.^)=
     
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    ah yeah i forgot 1H buster blade that heals good too coz im not using it my bad. thanks
     
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    1h, 1h, and 1h. Not only Knuckle become less effective as many bosses hate CC, they also struggle with ampr+aggro holding. Most DPS nowaday generate huge aggro especially Halberd/Bow CF 8s spam even with Sneak(I won't include Finale without Sneak coz they deserves dead). I don't think recovery matter much since P.def/EB is all i need for healing, so far i have no problem surviving with these two skills at hard hitting bosses like P.ava or Usakichi/Usami.
    And Meteor Dizzy is too good at bosses like P.ava/Ornlarf as it decrease their evasion/guard rate.

    ...I really like Knuckle. But playing Knuckle for 1 year, i only see they have way too many disadvantage compare to 1h tank. Their only advantage is Tumble, can save teammate at certain bosses. Not even speed, 1h can easily get free aspd with Berserk. OH right, and Knuckle right now with Twin Eagles can tap as well, if u have like ~1k atk, but for me, i can never get that Knuckle, 3 days farming, 2 gem runs, get everything BUT THAT.
     
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    Btw is chariot a gud skill for tankers?
     

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