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About magic burst

Discussion in 'Mage' started by Kaisyl, Jan 14, 2019.

  1. Kaisyl

    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    Been trying out this skill on a staff + dagger build and so far it works really nice pre lv100 bosses, especially if you have elemental advantage and proration.

    What I do is:
    Magic combo (3 skills) > Dagger proration combo > Swifted Impact Burst combo

    It's way stupid fast for a magic class build compare to finale all the time which sucks when soloing and can fail making you have to recharge for decades on end.

    Of course, for raw damage in situations where a good tank is present, Magic burst is basically shit but it still is a lot of fun to use in solo fights.
     
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    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    Is it at least better than storm? Post finale solo mages pretty much nonexistent. Idk about MTL mages though
     
  3. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Finale mages are gonna able to solo once they release evade button. They do not want burst to ever be a useful skill it seems.
     
  4. Kaisyl

    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    For moving bosses it's leagues better than storm.
    Stats are 110 INT and 100 DEX with 900ish cspd


    Keep in mind that I am still in the process of working on useable combos for this build. Getting rooted is a no-no.

    Well, if they don't change it, which they most likely should if they want this game to have diversity, nothing is going to beat a finale mage.


    Edit: A less risky-pre burst combo test
     
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  5. Obrskn

    Obrskn Well-Known Member

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    Yes Yes Give my poor Burst the attention asobimo :biblethump::biblethump:
     
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  6. Kaisyl

    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    Well, let's see, it's certainly faster than storm in terms of dps and far less risky.

    You need a minimum of 1k cspd for magic burst to work in which case you only need to use your magic skills before insta cast.

    If soloing, you need to prorate before using which is easier with a knuckle or dagger sub than compared to a shield sub which only had shield bash and shield cannon for phys proration.

    TBH, this skill is suited for dps mages whereas finale is suited for burst mages.

    Using elemental advantage burst on ifrid makes the fight really easy compared to risky finale and one shot.

    The damage is relatively low though and as such, you need to make use of no cast magic like impact and javelin as well as short cast magic like storm and lances.

    For builds with burst, I assume (haven't tested yet) that you need chain cast maxed. I need to lvl up my character to continue testing.
     
  7. Shisaku

    Shisaku Active Member

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    I deleted my brust mage. After I know how to finale with out get finch.
     
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  8. Kaisyl

    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    The damage remains the same leveling up making the whole thing useless without some built in magic peirce.

    You made the right choice x.z
     
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    Alzarith Elite Member Elite Member

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    Can u explain to me how magic pierce is going to increase finale's damage?
    It's just a crappy matk boost based upon the monster you fight. Most bosses have (estimated) 200 or less def, and this means even with 100% magic pierce (If you by some ungodly means reach it) you will gain only 200 matk. This is a pathetic boost.
     
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  10. RyeUshio

    RyeUshio The Blue Bull Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    Burst is not really impressive for a tier 4 skill. ^_^
     
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  11. Kaisyl

    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    ..... What?
    With more damage, I'm sure more mages would pick this over finale z.z
     
  12. Obrskn

    Obrskn Well-Known Member

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    Hi, Can you tell me how to negate flinch, please. Thank you.
     
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    Alzarith Elite Member Elite Member

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    U said "The damage remains the same leveling up making the whole thing useless without some built in magic pierce."
    The damage won't increase even with magic pierce, that's all
     
  14. Kaisyl

    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    Yeah... For magic burst tho not finale. Burst is useless as a dps skill on bosses with high magic resistance and high mdef. The damage is simply too low and mp cost too high to make it viable as a sustainable dps skill. Though the insta cast after x-magic skills is good.
     
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    Alzarith Elite Member Elite Member

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    O just misunderstood the context of your statement. Altho magic pierce is way worse than just plain matk for burst too
     
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    Alzarith Elite Member Elite Member

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    You can't while casting
     
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    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    How so? Proration doesn't work for it and even when the multiplier is high (using staff), the dmg is still low for the mp cost regardless of the matk.

    To be honest though, for a skill like this, hitting 80k on ifrid normal consecutively is fun... But you need elemental advantage.

    Maybe it should be insta cast by default and just gain +10% damage and +5% magic pierce for every magic skill used capping at a stack of 10.

    Too OP or much better?
     
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    Alzarith Elite Member Elite Member

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    Magic pierce basically adds a percentage of the target's mDef to your matk. So for a target with average 200 mDef, and your suggested 50% magic pierce, it would add 100 matk. It is a bad stat to use in almost every case normally instead of just using something that adds matk.
    The answer is yes, it would be good if it was built into the skill though.
     
  19. Kaisyl

    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    Eh seriously?

    Well in that case it'd be better to just give the skill a raw damage boost.

    T_T
     
  20. J.D.X.

    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    Magic burst is like the deformed love child of tenryu and garyou who picked up a kids magic set. :v
     
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