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About magic burst

Discussion in 'Mage' started by Kaisyl, Jan 14, 2019.

  1. Obrskn

    Obrskn Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for replying.
     
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    does lrd on stat and shot skill affects magic burst?hb concentrate?
     
  3. KearaBeear

    KearaBeear Well-Known Member

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    Actually there is a way to negate flinch. A skill known as Ether Barrier, found in Priest skills after Holy Light can give a 10 second buff to negate flinch:) However, it is a really short buff and needs to be casted quite frequently.

    The second way is to get 207 MTL for your finale mage, at lvl 175. Supposedly, tgt with Seraph Machina, Mushroom Cap and other Ailment resist items, you can negate flinch completely while casting finale ^^
     
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  4. Kaisyl

    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    Seems so.
    Mtl does not prevent magic flinch, ether barrier which does lasts about 5 seconds and has a 3 second cast time.
     
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  5. KearaBeear

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    Oh oof :"3
     
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  6. TokiXKiru

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    When magic flinch hits
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  7. KearaBeear

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    Thanks for the enlightenment ^^/
     
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  8. Wimzi

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    I actually have 2 burst mages atm, an MD main support hybrid that averages about 200k with each burst, and a magic crit staff(with MD sub) that averages 300-400k each burst(if it crits) with budget weapons. So the skill can actually become quite nice if given some dedication. ^^ Even though it's small I'm excited for the upcoming buff as well!
     
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  9. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    I want to see a video of magic critting at ornlarf. Actually I want to see element slash hitting at ornlarf, hard mode if possible, normal is too easy.
     
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    I decided to test it! ^^ Looove how the thumbnail is just me getting tumbled but I feel like it shows how much of a mess this battle was haha. Would’ve been nice if I had an actual tank. But at least element slash seemed to successfully hit the majority of the time.

     
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    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    Any other skill inflict weaken besides element slash?
     
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    Wimzi Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think so. I checked all the skill trees before building it. I don’t have too much issue landing element slash so far though. But Forestia Ultimate was a bit of a pain at times for that. :confused:
     
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    But anyway, need to solve the 200 crt thing b4 using crt magic as dps ^^;
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Thats really bad to be honest. All your element slash that hit were white grazes so actually you only have 30% chance of hitting it and inflicting weaken. You got really lucky hitting that 30% that many times in the video tho I can give you that.
    Meaning if you use a combo with it and burst inside you would only get a chance to crit burst 30% of the time. Try spamming 20 element slash in a row see if you get more misses or more hits.

    This is on the top of making the total crit rate and cdmg half. At that point you are way better just removing all of the crit rate and go regular element+matk equips, you will deal way better consistent damage with that.
    Magic crit is really bad mechanic at this stage and should not be applied as a main mage.
     
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    Thank you for your thoughts! ^^ I definitely understand your opinion and you're definitely entitled to it but I would have to respectfully disagree on most things.

    I was aware of the negatives to this build before going into it and personally I don't find the crit rate/dmg decrease too much of an issue considering even if it doesn't crit, it's not a big deal since it can't miss either like physical attacks. It makes sense for magic crit to have a disadvantage for that advantage. I also have separate equipment focused solely on boosting MATK for bosses that may cause me problems landing element slash or have neutral element meaning it's impossible to crit anyway. And while the damage is still acceptable to me with that equipment, it's much better when it crits even with less MATK. And besides with most bosses I've fought so far I've had very little problem landing element slash but I haven't done a ton of Ultimate level fights yet with this character so I'm sure it'll be much less consistent in some of those. But that's what I have my other equipment for, right? ;)

    Anyway sorry this is long but to sum this up I'm not trying to advertise this as a flawless or amazing build in any way, but so far I have had a lot of success with it and more importantly a lot of fun! ^^ I am happy with it~
     
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    What about 1H+MD though? You can use punish ray to greatly boost your crit and prorate with physical skills

    With Spellburst and Weaken active (75%), you only need 134 crit for 100 magic crit
     
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    I dont think that crit from spellburst and weaken status are additive. I managed to get to 188 crit and am still getting whites from magic
    With 120 crit stat I have 60 base crit
    Curious dress + 60
    Bearhat with gesp + 25
    Seele talic +15
    Lvl6 food +18
    2pcs ava +10

    I am guessing crit chance from spellburst ia computed separately from weaken effect.
    Or i am RNG is playing tricks on me, im supposed to have 94% crit chance with weaken alone but still get whites
     
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  18. Efra

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    Asobimo confirmed that weaken is bugged

    But the thing is, I don't see it in the bug list anymore, but I also haven't seen it got fixed in MT details

    Did they forgot that this is a bug tho?
     
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    Yeah, just checked the announcement ans weaken is not in the bug list.
    Why would aso make items for magic crit and not fix the bug first. I had high hopes for this, will shelf it and wait for update.
     

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