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Accuracy problem

Discussion in 'Bow' started by Hotarubi Kuze, May 22, 2017.

  1. Hotarubi Kuze

    Hotarubi Kuze Well-Known Member

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    CRT + 24%, CRT + 48(With blade arrow +3, so it should be 45), CRT stat 56 and the CRT up skill Maxed.
     
  2. Lynxia

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    oh btw does the buff skill crit really adds 5 to crit rate? Some mentioned that it does but im just getting a 2nd opinion sense you tested crit rate more fully.
     
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    iirc Lvl 9 or 10 CRT UP = +5 C.rate
     
  4. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Yep its 103% even without blade arrow so just go for elemental arrows.
    Since you are using bows your snipe will be 100% crit as well :)

    Yeah it indeed gives +5 crit at lvl10 dunno about lvl9 as far as I know crit dmg can be decimal but not crit rate.
     
  5. Hotarubi Kuze

    Hotarubi Kuze Well-Known Member

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    ok thanks, i'm gonna kick that twilight dragon lol.
     
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  6. Lynxia

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    ok thanks. What do you guys use to find this out?
     
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  8. Lynxia

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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    I usually only test something that hasnt been tested already. Stuff about crit rate was already discovered so I just posted whatever I read if I can confirm it to be true :D . Here the confirmation was me not getting 100% critical rate.

    Also because rate testing is a major pain in the butt especially, for example me and my friend recently went out to test the proc rate of armor break on shell break for non knux char, we had to use shell break over 600 times to make sure theres minimum error due to RNGeesus trolling around.
     
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    btw some info are not accurate so u need to test it by yourself :eek::eek::eek:
     
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    Let's make it a little bit detailed.. xD
    Base crit rate: 25 + CRT stat / 3.5 = 25 + 56/3.5 = 41
    CRT+24%: 24/100 * 41 = 9.84 = 9
    CRT+45 (I guess from 24 + 15 GH + 6 Warmo) = 45
    CRT Up = 5
    So, total = 100
    ^^
     
  12. Lynxia

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    lol np i was really looking for the calculator use to test it. heard some mentioning test the crit using some sort of calculator while the game was running.
     
  13. Lynxia

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    I bet that shell break testing made the game a bit more interesting, since it kinda boring atm xD.
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    It took us 2hours total to test that whole thing :/
    So it isnt exactly something we look forward to doing everyday.
    Its just shell break is such a unique skill as in almost every class got a use out of it so we had to do it regardless :)
     
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  15. Lynxia

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    oh
    oh one more thing too hope it not to much to ask can you send me to links proving that the defualt crit rate is 25 cuase when i calulated mines with the 25 defualt crit rate it amounted to 78.5 and it feels a lot lower then that. Feels more like 60.
     
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    Strike stab and snipe both have base c,rate penalties, so both is under the normal base for autos+other skills
     
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    there's no such thing as 112% crit rate if u're missing a lot of the times. 100% crit rate does NOT miss, you only hit yellow shots. i don't think u have anywhere near 100% if u're missing most of your shots.
    CDmg does not calcuate into your crit rate, that only adds more dmg to your crit shots
    as much as i love @Cruithne work, that stat calculation is not completely accurate, i did a test run with the exact stats on my current char and all the numbers were mismatched.
     
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    Base CRIT rate is ONLY Affected by the CRIT stat. Let me restate this.

    BASE CRIT RATE IS ONLY AFFECTED BY THE CRIT STAT.

    As a result of this, the 12% critical rate stats on armors give different amounts depending on how much BASE critical rate you have.
    Every 3.5 CRIT stat = +1 Critical rate to BASE.
    With 56 crit stat ---> 16 critical rate to base. Base being 25, this gives you 41 base critical rate.
    12% of 41 base = 4.92. Asobimo hates us, so this rounds to 4 crit rate for each 12% stat. Since there are two, this gives you +8 total.

    41 base + 8 from % = 49 crit rate.
    Just add flat crit rate from gears and xtals to that 49, and you have your total critical rate.
    49 + 24 from armor and bow = 73
    73 + 21 from gothic hat and warmonger = 94
    94 + 5 from CRIT UP skill = 99
    99 + 3 from Blade arrow = 102

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    Fun facts:
    -Critical hits will never miss, they can be evaded, but you will never see a white "Miss" ever again if you have over 100 critical rate.
    -If the target is blinded by smoke dust or spinning slash, Snipe can not miss.
    -Using the STR stat increases cdmg, and atk on bows
    -Snipe has -25% critical rate while using a bowgun. This means to reach 100% critical rate with a bowgun snipe, you will need 134 critical rate
    -You can reach 134 critical rate with 119 CRIT stat on a bowgun build, and full CRIT gears. This includes a slotted pendulum and Bexiz crysa, and Crit rate +3 crystas. The 119 crit stat gives you +34 to base crit, which means each 12% stat adds 7 critical rate, instead of the 4 from your current setup. The 12% stats increase a lot based on your base critical rate.

    Also, let it be known that Critical rate is calculated using JUST numbers, there are no percentages in the calculation outside of the 12% on armor and weapons. Stating that you have 100% critical rate is just another way of saying that you will always crit, (you have 100 critical rate)
     
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  19. Lynxia

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    Thank you for the clarification when i was calculating Kuze crit and i calculated 103 as a approximate amout(not being the reall amount) i was going to do further test cuase it wasnt making no sense,and a while back(like months ago) i remember using a Yelb xtal and my ASPD before that xtal was 1853 after the xtal it was 2303, that 50% did even mutiply with the 1853. So when Mayem made that commet about the crit % multpling with the default crit it made sense. Glad he lefted that comment, saved me time from doing the test myself. :D
     
  20. Lynxia

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    Thanks for the clarification, this explains that strange % increase in my ASPD when i used the yelb xtal a while back. Sent you a like ;)
     
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