Agi-tank + damage katana

I love recreating characters and I remembered one character who did godly work as a tank in a game called Xenoblade Chronicles
Dunban was your aggro carrying dodger and was able to do good damage as well

This is all probably incorrect but I just put what I thought was important for the build
The idea is to hit at a very fast rate to generate aggro and recover mp fast and to spam skills like support
And agi and gear is there to dodge+evade most of the attacks
Please tell me what you think
Viable, unviable, trash, should I give up and trash it, i really would like to know if its doable and I'd appreciate any advice or thoughts on this ^ ^

The light armor skills maxed and hp/mp boosts maxed+ bushido

2h for crit
I'm still thinking about the build so I don't have a lot of the pieces yet sorry...

 

Since katana dont get atk from agi and knuckles can easily reach 800atk as the pic u posted...i'm wondering if u have specific katana attacking skills in mind?

If ur using tenryu (yes its strong), i think it should do good dmg tho...did'ja try it yet? Also since tenryu is perfect aim, full str gives aspd too...does it? But since tenryu zannou is 1mp, i wonder how would u manage aggro?

Had a knuck/breaker/tank has similar idea as u, fast attacks and good (lol nope) dmg without shields. Can reach 50% motion speed cap with beserk (high aggro) and rush buff, but need recast every 10secs. Gsw would remove the tank option but...still havent added it lols

 

For aggro the idea was for rapidfire autos and support skills with high mp cost
Skill spam basically for decent damage and good aggro build up

I haven't yet tried it but imI leveling mine right now with this in mind

 

Besides magic I think it should be able to dodge plenty of attacks while supporting the party and keeping aggro to itself

Definitely won't get attacker but perhaps breaker as well as tank and support?

 

Too bad rapid fire autos still has low aggro unless aggro% equips. Would like to know which support skills gives high aggro too excluding obvious warcry xdddddd

The said 50% motion knuck can rank hog easily except attacker (cuz i nub) because 10sec spams plus warcry.

Spoiler

Btw a certain black-listed person disliked ur post, so we be mature?

 

Lol I don't particularly mind the dislike
So far what I know is more mp= more aggro
I can do a good tenryuu combo off a chain of support skills lol
Build up aggro, do some damage, win-win

 

Nope. Bad.

 

Reasons?

 

I'd say its not viable, the main reason is Tenryuu being the main source of damage which means you require using Magadachi/Zantei.
While the idea is decent, but evasion and evade actually cripple Magadachi/Zantei, cause when they trigger they completely ruin your Magachi/Zantei resulting the Tenryuu buff doesn't get its extra time. Might possible with other weapon, not with katana.

 

The idea isn't really to do damage since that idea would fit a 2h tank/dps better

Its more to dodge and tank while supporting the party, and you're not completely useless when it comes to doing damage like 1h tanks

May help bring down a boss faster if you can do some damage rather than none

 

Hmm... To put it simply:
1) katana is better go pure dps. Why? Just read the skill set of mononofu
2) dodge and eva are not good (svcks) for tanking damage. Read the detailed explanation on other threads.
3) you will find it hard to hold aggro of your pt (without destroying team proration too much)
4) this is TORAM ONLINE not Xenoblade something where you based your character is. Cosplay is good. Adopting playstyle is fine. But if you ask me whether that was good build or no... Id say its bad build.

I hope you put that into consideration b4 buying new char slot or resetting char unless you have many $$$

 

You missed the main point... its not about you losing damage, but more into you're crippling your own playing because sometimes the evasion made Magadachi/Zantei fails.
The frustration from failing an else successful Magadachi/Zantei which resulting in Tenryuu buff failing is something you will face lots of time.
Your build isn't viable cause its frustrating to play, I use a light armor due to being poor and want to share armor on all my character. It result in my Magadachi/Zantei failing just from a 10% evasion, imagine how horrible it is on 49%. I went as far as farming as fast as possible to buy prime to adds in Odelon Xtal to reduce the 10% evasion to 0%.

If you want to use katana with this build no matter what, then at least don't use Tenryuu/Magadachi/Zantei.

 

I wasn't planning on using those either way in all honesty since it requires being attacked or something
Being dodgy kinda ruins that...
Plus I think there's far too much focus in the tier 4 skills too....hasso happa and other damaging moves still exists
And doing lots of damage still isn't a big enough priority anyhow
This build was just an idea I came up with while thinking about my other favorite games lol
Thanks for the inputs fellas

 

Oh and also cuz I've been forced to tank often as my HB and i couldn't help but notice how much I dodged and survived

 

I think u shouldn't put point in VIT, put it at AGI after DEX is 250 or reverse. Y? 250 AGI 1st or 250 DEX 1st is enough to make high pot low success weeapoo weapon which need both AGI n DEX. If u go 250 AGI then u need to use Flash Blast (which is a small AoE that appears when u evade) to deal DMG, or just use mononofu skills with other class's buffs if u go 250 DEX.
P/s : I'm not sure if boss's blue or red atk zone is avoidable or not but u should use zantei on those that deal DMG once

 

I honestly don't get how you missed the whole point of what makes your build not viable when I build my argument based on your own words which is:

You can't do a good Tenryuu combo, your evasion cripple your Magadachi/Zantei, there isn't such a thing as Tenryuu with not utilizing Magadachi/Zantei, you said you can do some damage, you can't, how is this so hard to understand.

That one post is the whole reason I mention "If you want to use katana with this build no matter what, then at least don't use Tenryuu/Magadachi/Zantei."
I never focus on tier 4 skills, you're the first one to mention that the build focus its damage from Tenryuu.

 

Errmmm senpaiz, its probably this dishonored one that gave the wrong ideas on tenryu. Sorry about that, hope we can chill

But since when can evasion cripple tenryu magadachi? Dont u need NOT to get hit to activate zannou? Afaik evasion only affects zantei not magadachi...and using magadachi while getting hit is doing it wrong...

 

My mistake

But yeah my intent wasn't really to use tenryuu much, although now that I saw the effect I might definitely not

I'm still in the planning stage e.e

I appreciate your time, aggression not really...

I guess I should have been clear, tenryuu wasn't the main hard hitter, I was just acknowledging and putting into consideration the tenryuu that was mentioned
I didn't actually know it used maga/zantei that badly
Please don't hit me ;-;

 

So you're the culprit! Yes, its true that you should not get hit while Magadachi Zannou however weirdly enough evasion actually cancel it... heck, evasion cancel most skills and sometimes your own combo. So no, evasion made both Zannou doesn't work.

Eh, so you don't know how the skills work and he only incite you... no wonder my point never get across ._.

 

Imma help you out here, you can only evade the small circle AOE ones and single target attacks

Examples are one of metal stinger's attacks and one of tortuga's attacks (the small circle one)

Also evade doesn't work on magical attacks
Since most of the blue atk zones are magic you can't evade/dodge it, even if it wasn't magic.

As for dodge, you can dodge AOE attacks but you need high flee in order to do so and it depends on the hit rate of the enemy.

Mmkaaay I'm done time to keep testing my
evasive dw tank whoosh~