Are knuckles unwanted?

Everytime in a party, I get kicked. Is it because I am a knuckle user? My guildmates always say that knuckles are weak and I should change, but I like knuckles that's why I stick with it, but if it is really unwanted, I will have no choice but to change. Any tips?

 

I suggest forming a party instead or joining up with guildies. Tbh, Knux falls short on keeping up with pace of other dps in the current meta.

It can be good for solo tho, but if your planning to level faster it will take a bit to do so until you find relaible non-judgemental parties.

Its going to be a challenge but if your dedicated to it, go for it, that's the reality of Knux right now. (this is the mindser I had when I leveled my support all the way to cap)

Aso still hasn't given the proper rework for Knux because they don't understand why it needs to.Lol I remember GM Sarah on a livestram saying, why does everyone hates Knuckles

 

I'm afraid to create a party since I'm still new, though my guildmates are helpful. I'll take that suggestion of partying only with guildmates. Thank you.

 

Yes

 

None class is weak. Just keep going to play what you love.

I play the class that most kicked from party - "supporter", but I love the support.
After play support for 3 years, now I found my way to make my support to be OP.

On your Knucle build, you can play "Counter Punch!" (God hand + Gloria punch) for close range, and "Kamehameha!" (Chariot) for long range.
With Chakra skill, you can heal PT 100mp instant and put 50% dmg reduction shiled on them.
And with shiled or dagger sub-weapon, you will have i-frame skill to make you good survive.

You can test your DMG on Don-Yeti. The standard DMG is 800k+ for 1 smite skill.
If not, you need to investiment to improve your gear, or learn how combo&proration do.

 

not really, they are helpful on breaking boss parts and interrupt the boss attack. but since most players only focus on fast kill, they only accept high damage classes on party.
it reminds me when i party with randoms : 1h tank, archer(me), mage, knuckle and it's before asobimo give manual evade and guard.
we fighting a boss monsters (i forget the which boss since it's a long ago), the tank is dead, the mage reviving, i'm taking aggro and got stunned. and the bosses going to finish me, that moment, knuckle user saved my life by interrupting the boss attack.
well, since aso giving new skill and buff to dps class like bow, i don't see someone using knuckle, till now.
and when i creating knuckle dps and trying to find party to lvling with random, no one want to invite me for a long time.
that's the reality for knuckle dps

 

it wont really make a difference cuz people will leave when they see that he is a knuckles user..... OR he could do the bait and switch to other gear method XD

 

For me, downsides of knuckle class are:
-"buggy skill/s"
-"balanced(?)" as the game says.
-interruption ailments (which some bosses counter), just equip "____ unavailable" items = np.
Aside from all of these, I think knuckle class is a decent class (though I'm not a fan of it). I think it should have more sub skill trees with bonuses on knuckles as main weapon (which will probably be released in the near future)
The definition of "weak" is a matter of perspective. There are players with expensive gears and using a popular class but often caught sleeping in battle.
Also, you can be strong by any means you like (Toram gave you free choices). Example is knuckle class can equip almost all subweapons, which can make them versatile and flexible... so you can be "tanky" whenever you want or "glass cannon/full dps" whenever you want or "full support" whenever you want, etc.
If you really feel like playing a certain weapon class, then GO! Discover and conquer.
Personally, I would be happy if there's a knuckle main in my PT. With great timings, knuckles and mages/hunters form a great team especially in battling Gespenst II.

 

Most parties only invite knuckles as a tank, not as main dps. Knuckle's greatest strength is their ability to use all 3 interrupt skills with 100% inflict rate(flinch, tumble, stun). This way they are very ideal as a tank to time their interrupts wisely to help the party survive or kill the boss faster. Most of the very high difficulty event bosses needs knuckle tank to kill the boss faster and more effectively.

 

I feel you with knuckles, and it'll be harder if you play it as dps.

If as tank, knuckles are still good pt i think they're almost on par with 1hs. well, tanks in particular are always in demand in higher level boss especially if you're good.

If you're a knuckle md farmer it gets tough, especially low levels. I'm cap at 215 and still have hard time farming bubble (metal). I try to lfp knuck md but no one takes me, unless i get invited by a random pt who doesn't discriminate against other classes besides hb.

Perhaps you can use your knuckles char as a 2nd character or so, that way you already got all good gears to be a bit OP but it'll be hard to do as main with all the grinding and no party

 

Later on the game, you will realize that you will need other class and their advantages on dealing with various foes.

Though for the moment, persist and enjoy the main class you have chosen. You need to raise your level, get good gears and practice its gameplay, because a strong brawler is never unwanted. ^_^

 

You play this game with friends, not with strangers so no more feeling of being unwanted

 

Damage wise? it sucks really hard
Utility? very damn good.
Remember the first time Volgagon comes out? everyone wants knuck tank since they are the only one that can reliably stunlock the boss
Personally, i used knuck to farm bosses since i can lock the boss in place while other get busy with their tapping

Sadly, as new chapters and bosses comes out, much of the newer bosses have annoying ass gimmick or outright deadly counter.
From what i see last time i played, most bosses only have 1 safe interrupts (no gimmicks/counter) which limits knucks utility

Of course as other classes, if you spend tons of spina to gear it, it could deal good damage
Its ok to stay as knuck if you want but, know that you brought this pain upon yourself and be ready to accept them

 

'Unwanted' as in inefficient in a competitive sense. From the perspective of a meta-follower, using a class that has been proven to be inefficient would be perceived as placing your own personal joy over the greater community. You will receive backlash for this very reason; if you can't handle that, don't play an MMO. As mentioned before, I suggest avoiding strangers (until the damage difference isn't notable to them; you might even impress them), and find a group of players that share your mindset.

 

Wow, a GM is really ignorant on that issue xD then again, they have also overlooked the Bow bias (both CF and Sat are OP as hell) and making Mage pretty useless (hello new moving bosses for Finale miss & how none of the T4 Wizard skills are useful)

 

GM Sarah isn't a game developer, she is a Community Manager for English language.
Her job is to relay updates and other info in English to the people, and also interact with the community.
I agree that she should also listen to the English community and relay stuff to the Devs from us, like Bugs or inconsistencies, or other issues.
Also, she is doing her job in some way, she has a series where she is redoing the Main quest with a Knuckle character called BOB, and when she will play with it herself she will eventually realise that it is worse than her main DW build. Hopefully put in some words about Knuckles to the Devs.

 

With how long knuckles has always been underpowered damage wise compared with the other weapons, I'm starting to think that the devs intentionally did this because they regard knuckle's ability to interrupt 3 times with 100% proc rate as already good enough of a strong point. Knuckles are always preferred(usually as tanks) on high difficulty bosses like gespenst hell and volgagon, maybe the devs will continue to create more high difficulty event bosses in the future where knuckle's 3 interrupts will again be needed for an easy farm.

 

Yes, and maybe that's why they're trying to compensate for this by buffing knuckle wep drops nowadays.

 

What the hell is Annihilator then?
It reduces Ailment rate by 50%

 

with high end build (ele + dte) 220 cap i did simulation that knux build can do 1.8m Rush and 3m+ in Goliath (no god hand) chariot still useful as a aoe but in late game rush is stronger

Base on Coryn Stats Build + Skill Info from Amino

because of annihilator knux become decent now (but it affect for CC and ailments). 50% weapon atk including refine is pretty op compare to 4 ATK distribution (and in late game only single stats only getting upgrade due to increase cap of stats)

currently there's no hardcore knux user that invest everything (ele dte build) to see the full potential of knux dps