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Awesome Knuckle Tank

Discussion in 'Brawler' started by Selladyn, Aug 8, 2017.

  1. Selladyn

    Selladyn Well-Known Member

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    Screenshot_20170809-183304.png Hmmm. Where to start? First off let's start with some knowledge! Cause if we don't know how things really work how we gonna make a tank that works? Tank: agro hog, damage mitigater, boss interrupter. So, required reading folks!

    http://toramonline.com/index.php?th...beefy-today-chickeny-guide-to-defences.22518/

    Now, I'ma not gonna go into huge long explanations as to why this tank build is AWESOME or why I chose the gear I use.... Cause after 2-9 read throughs of chickens guide to becoming more beefy you can figure it all out!!! Ahh hahaha.:rolleyes:

    Hmmmm I have NO IDEA how to do Spoilers! So consider scrolling down and reading any further A big spoiler. ;)

    Now this CAN be used as a "GUIDE", but in all actuality I'm posting it cause; This. Is. Me.

    I love protecting the weak, love the attention from cute,cuddly, woddly bosses like Tapir! And love the complexity of creating a combo (well 2 or 3) for every boss I dance with.

    Stats:
    255 Vitality
    132 Mental

    Skills: Hmmmm ALL RED Cause if useless is needed to get something Useful!

    Mage
    Mp recharge: 1

    Martial
    Smash: 6 (100% flinch)
    Bash: 5 (cause we gotta get shell break)
    Shell break: 10 Procs at a 25% rate for a return on investment of 4 mp (400 actually but we all use short hand right?). Oh yes it BREAKS SHELLS!! Whaahaha so no notta zero Defense for Boss!)
    Heavy Smash: 1 (72% Lethargy-30% damage reduction) Thanks for the info readers!
    Sonic Wave: 10 (100% tumble)
    Earth Bind: 1 (over 50% stop)


    Guard skills
    Guard: 10
    Advanced Guard: 10

    Survival Skills
    HP recovery thingy: 5
    HP Boost: 10
    MP rest thingy: 5
    MP up: 10

    Support Skills
    Mini Heal: 5
    Debuff skill: 6
    Sanctuary: 10

    Shield Skills
    Speedy shield attack thingy: 5
    Shield Bash: 5
    Shield Cannon: 10
    Protection: 10
    Aegis: 10
    Guardian: 10

    Knight Skills
    Assault Attack: 5 (100% knockback)
    Parry: 5 (cause we want P. Def)
    Perfect Defense: 10

    Priest Skills
    Holy Fist: 1 (or hunter kick 1)

    Katana Skills:
    Shukuchi: 1

    Gear!!! Gotta love tanky resistance gear. MMM MMM MMM good stuff!!

    Weapon:
    Drills (never ever miss) and we never want to KILL a boss! Our job is to protect those DPS crazed glass cannons...
    Xtall:
    1.) Builder Golem
    2.) Inzanio (currently, debating if Zega II any better).... Tried Zega II went back to Inzanio

    Shields:
    Dark General's +C refined (dark element bosses) Agro gear!

    Armour:
    NPC Brigandine +C refined
    Xtall:
    Daddy Finpen

    Twilight Dress +C (Light Element Bosses)
    Xtall: Daddy Finpen

    Holy Robe NPC Version (Dark Element Bosses)
    Xtall: Ifrid

    Additional Gear:
    Circle of Order +C refined
    Xtall: Candela (Switched from Grylle (second choice) for +500 aspd)

    Special Gear:

    Dark Fighter's Bangle (agro gear)
    Xtall: Stone Mercenary

    Combos:
    Yes I use combos!

    Guardian combo once at beginning of fight (either before or after main combo depending if main combo is a break stun combo), Stun combo for TD and other "Break first" bosses, Sanctuary combo for EX event, mini bosses, hard and nightmare, and Gem Runs. Shell break combo for most bosses in normal mode (can be stun lock combo for Tapir like cuddly woddly bosses).... Note that Sanctuary has a decent cast speed animation, and can easily be added to the end of a basic shell break combo: smash> shell break (save)> sonic wave (swift)> shield cannon (swift)> sanctuary (con).... possibly perfect defense at the end.

    Combos make or break a player, and understanding when to use them, what boss skills should be interrupted, avoided, or absorbed, is pretty important. Best wishes in learning. Lots of bosses have specific aversions to interrupt skills (flinch, tumble, stun) so tailor your combos based on the boss you are fighting.
    For example, Imitacia combos:

    Smash> Shell Break (save)> Assualt Attack (swift)> Perfect Defense (smite)...... When her HP is at the "zero" in 109 (roughly 25% of HP) switch to this Combo!!!
    Sonic Wave> Shell Break (save)> shield cannon (swift)> Perfect Defense (swift)

    And if party goes sleepy nighty night night it mean you smashed when should have waved (or waved when should have smashed). o_O

    My HP in basic tank gear.... 20k+
    MP: 700+ 1300 with Holy Robe.

    Will likely replace Daddy Finpen with Tapir in NPC Brigantine... Unless a better tank arm comes out soonish.
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Thanks for the mention of my guide even though its still incomplete with data about aggro and a few other tidbits coz I am so lazy/busy to edit :notlikethis:

    Tbh about making +S,+A armor or add gear it becomes redundant just like the def boost from ckc so +B should be good enough if you feel rich or +C if you cant afford +B either.
    Shield tho refine if you can reach +A you should as it does more than damage mitigation, (guardian reduces more aggro from party based on your shield refine).
     
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    Yes of course sir. Yet the difference in having all gear at +C (+36% Fractional physical and magic resistance) and oh let's say for argument you got all to +S.... If all gear is +S your fractional magic and physical base resist will be... 45%!!
     
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    Imo jiangshi hat is better used on a low hp toon, also imo res% over 50 isnt really needed, and the dmg reduction from lethargy is -30%
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Even with higher hp toons jiangshi still useful its not like you will use brigandine all the time to make your resistance always above 50%.
    All damage mitigation calculations are done seperately either way 100% resistance will still be better for tanking a boss that spams fractional.

    Other useful add gears can be adel cape both drop and npc versions are good theres also rose in mouth and yummy dango but both are event limited gear.
     
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    Ahh haha I'll reread your thread a
    Hmmm thank you sir for correcting my knowledge on Lethargy, but was it not obvious by the "?" I was unsure of the value? And excuse me but I do not understand why or how you can laugh out loud at +15% magic and physical resistance, and +300 MP. Certainly over 50% resistance is not NEEDED! Yet, is it gonna hurt you or help you survive more??? Ahhahahahah
     
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    The combo kinda a bit physical, and with qd+sb as ur ampr I will assume you be using the combo a bit a a lot for mp. +B I kinda enough for gears esp if u just exclusively using brigandine+jiangshi. But a tank will noticed that physical atk not a threat compared to magical atks. Like a reduced magic dmg from mermaid's ear+25% water resst is more better than jiangshi's +15% magic resist vs water types boss.
     
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    Ahh yes I will mention all my gear is currently +C refined. I have a luck refiner and in my spare time I am using 20 antideg to get my shield to +B. Not only for the agro reduction of Guardian, in addition it will add +1 to block rate with Guardian. And also +1 physical magic Fractional resistance for every refine level.
     
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    If only there were more water ele bosses that is.
    Cerberus even though it is water ele its strongest attacks the blue aoes fire ele lol
    Only other boss is inzanio and tbh getting a completely new add gear just for one boss is not worth it.
     
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    How many water bosses are there? :eek:
     
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    Hehehe thank you sir. You defend me with knowledge!
     
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    Yes and previous empress event got mixed element skills too. But then again its optional, but u might see some using different combinations of gears. Like TD/tapir armor + Jiangshi.
     
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    Screenshot_20170808-225806.png View attachment 35678 View attachment 35678
    Yeesh! You wrong sir... Damage reduction IS 25% at least according to the wiki page on status ailments...
     
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    Yep even if the bosses use one dark ele attack while not being dark ele themselves e.g.(imitacia, td) I would switch to TD or a custom m/p resist7% armor, for some reason dark ele attacks are much more common making dark resist the most useful ele resist.

    That wiki is outdated or has misinformation :notlikethis:
    Lethargy indeed is 30% reduction when I tested again, sorry if its still 25% given on my guide I will change it soon.
     
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    Im not laughing nor did i type lol, imo= in my opinion, and i told u the lethargy % because u were unsure and knowing can help, especially with Sanctuary, 50% res +30% dmg taken off of that value with enough hp should allow sanctuary to work, tho even if the original atk hits u for 10% or less that 30% from lethargy will reduce the dmg after sanctuarys 90%
     
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    My apologies sir. And thank you for correcting my misinformation! I do appreciate true tested knowledge over, hehe, outdated incorrect knowledge.
     
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    Its np, its 4:11am so my bad if i made it seem that way
     
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    I mean the previous empress event. As for now theres no doubt that jiansghi/brigandine got a better magic dmg reduction having the highest magic resist add/armor so far. But as the game progress with harder boss, more Stuffs be added as well and who knows.
     
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    2x post due to lags
     
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    Well I'll say I learn something new every day! Nice. So it looks like Tapir Arm would benefit from oh let's use Ifrid! :D
     

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