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Baggy BowGun Tank (yep your right....just a TANK...just sharing toodles:)

Discussion in 'Bow Gun' started by Bago2, May 4, 2018.

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  1. Bago2

    Bago2 Well-Known Member

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    I added a lvl 1 bloody on my bow toon.it seems I got a 4m limit on it
     
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    Doesn't the bg have 8 meters? Now I wonder if magic tree can increase its range further. It is quite handy I had soloed bosses without burning my eb stores.
     
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    Yep...
    But bow have a furture range than bg.so why I'm at 4m on a lvl 1 bloody then...that's why I'm still 50/50 on bloody to add on my skill set.btw what lvl do you have on bloody and how much he return it gives? Considering your current home and etc...do tell hehhe
     
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    My bloody bite is at level 10 and it only heals 1380 since at the moment char is only level 138.
     
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    Oh thanks.might consider adding it to my skill set. Thanks bud
     
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    Its still good whitout diver bowgun and cone lll? Whit stat MTL>VIT, couse i late the even
     
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    That's one of the problems of this tank...
    Must have those 2 bowguns. Or else you'll end up missing or sacrificing stats,gears...
    But you can be a dps tank with crit gears.
    Honestly this build is just meant to tank.and nothingelse ;)

    You can even use bloody bite if you have enough damage for the full hp return.which this build lacks.
     
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    There's also the lil empress bowgun with +25 crit that drops from venena, it's not as good as cone 3 or divers of course, as you will only have 50 crit in total after adding your base crit, but since decoy shot still gets ampr even if it's attack miss then lil empress bg can also be used for getting near unlimited mp from decoy shot and spamming P.defense, the only major reason tanks need 100+ crit anyway is to interrupt 100% of the time
     
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    Uploaded a video prolly a trick to masskill lvl 174 Altoblepas miniboss?
    You decide;)
     
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    good way to max crit on gear??
     
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    can you elaborate on that??? coz atm using divers bg(+100 crit) + base crit (+25) im at 125 crit
    wearing current posted gears..
     
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    well if that is the best way for a bow/bowgun to get good crit then im game. um what is base crit tho?? and where do i find the divers bowgun?? i got a cone 3 atm. will that work?? its got crit on it too.
     
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    i meant like what is the best way to get maxest crit on any gear i wear?? cuz i wasnt sure.
     
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    cone bg has 75 crit + your base crit +25 = 100% crit . just be weary with crit resist boss :) coz you gonna see a few white hits
    actually diver bg and cone = are the only bg's for this build atm.(event gears)
    crit 1 <<view
    crit 2 <<<view

    about the max crit thingy on any gear you wear.....
    since this build is more on tanking.. pretty much divers bow gun and cone gives all the crit that this tank needs
    armor = more on resist
    add = agro
    ring agro ampr
     
  15. david bobby

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    i want create bg tank. I have cone bg, but for daily, is c rate from cone enough? New boss need 110 c rate now, and idk about new boss in future, maybe have more.
     
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    Against crit resist bosses you can also try to get a crit rate food buff from a friend, lvl 6 gives +14 crit rate, or you can also get a gespenst 2 xtal or yashiro mom xtal for an extra +10 crit rate, but I think the critical rate from cone horn 3(+75)plus your base crit rate (+25) should be enough against most bosses, one of bowgun tank's greatest strengths is the ranged ampr from decoy shot, allowing us to spam P.def and use short and high-mp combos while never running out of mp, and even if the decoy's shot missed it will still give you ampr, having more than 100% crit rate is only necessary if you want to interrupt(flinch, stun, tumble) a crit resistant boss 100% of the time
     
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    you found it CONGRATS!!!
    Previous Stats at 180:
    LVL 180...255mtl>155vit>63dex
    Hp 19,657 / Mp 1,500+= lil empress garb(bossdrop)

    Curent level at 185:
    LVL 185...255mtl>155vit>78dex

    Hp 20,170 / Mp 1,285= lil empress garb(bossdrop)
    RED TEXT = UPDATE
    BLUE TEXT = MUST HAVE
    My Total Skill Points: 250 (used 208) = sp left 52
    BLADE Skills: 16 skill points
    5 sword mastery
    5 quick slash
    5 warcry
    1 berserk


    Shot Skills: 46 skill points
    5 power shot
    5 moeba
    5 paralysis
    5 smoke dust

    1 arm break
    5 shot mastery
    5 long range

    5 quick draw
    10 decoy

    SUPPORT Skills: 25 skill points
    5 mini heal
    10 recovery
    10 sanctuary


    SURVIVAL Skills:
    5 safe rest
    10 hp boost ~ took this out due to hp is enough
    5 short rest
    10 mp boost ~ took this out due to mp is enough

    SHIELD Skill: 85 skill points
    10 shield mastery ~ aspd purpose
    10 shield bash ~ stun purpose
    5 shield cannon
    10 guard strike ~ i invested on this due to its effects on mobs (like seeing them 4 digits damage :)
    10 Protection
    10 Aegis
    10 Guardian
    10 Force shield
    10 Magical shield


    KNIGHT Skills: 20 skill points
    5 assault
    5 parry

    10 perfect defense

    HUNTER Skills:
    5 kick
    5 sunrise arrow

    10 magic arrow ~ took this out due to my ampr is enough with decoy and saved 25 sp

    MONONOFU Skills: 6 skill points
    5 bushido
    1 shukuchi

    DARK POWER Skills: 10 skill points
    10 bloody bite ~ option = at lvl 180 and with enough atk it gives 1,850 hp(due to current lvl cap of 185) per cast but have restrictions on boss and minis


    STAR GEMS Skills
    GUARD skills:

    10 heavy armor mastery
    BATTLE skills:
    10 def up
    HALBERD skills:
    10 quick aura
    HUNTER skills: (ailment sensitive boss for combo 3)
    10 kick
    BRAWLER skills: (not sensitive boss for combo 3)
    10 smash
    10 sonic
    SUPPORT skills:
    10 mini heal
    10 first aid
    *can mix and match depends on what you need
    BOWGUN:
    Cone horn III (
    Base ATK 180 / DEX % 6 / MaxMP 300 / Critical Rate 75 / Aggro % 15 / % stronger against Neutral 25 / Base Stability % 50)
    Crystals:
    Evil Magic Sword (Critical Damage 5 / Aggro % 10 / Attack MP Recovery 5)
    Hero Putom (MaxHP % 10 / Accuracy % 10 / Aggro % 10 / Fractional Barrier % 10)
    SHIELD
    3RD Annivesary Shield (Base DEF 36 / VIT % 5 / Guard Power % 38 / Guard Rate % 13 / Aggro % 21 / Fractional Barrier % 4)
    ARMOR
    Lil empress (MaxMP 500 / Physical Resistance % 25 / Magical Resistance % 25 / Water resistance % -75 / Aggro % -15 / Attack MP Recovery 10)
    Crystal:
    Arcoiris (Natural HP Regen % 10 / MaxHP % 10 / DEF % 10)
    ~~~why this armor: resist definitely but i still have this on two: Brigadine (arco) Twilight Arm (arco)
    Add Gears
    Charm belt (Base DEF 30 MaxMP 300 / Magical Resistance % 15 / Aggro % 30 / Neutral Resistance % 10)
    Crystals:
    Candela ll (MaxHP % 20 / MaxMP -250 / ASPD 600)
    Dusk Machina (MaxHP % 20 / Aggro % 10 / Long Range Damage % -10)
    Circle of Order (Base DEF 46: Physical Resistance % 20 - / Magical Resistance % 20 - / Light resistance % 10)
    Kitty Hat (MaxHP % 15 / Ailment Resistance % 15) ~i will have 101% with this build ailment using this + hp, but lose 30% agro
    Santa beard (base 100: Ailment Resistance % 10 / Aggro % 30 / Neutral Resistance % 20 / Drop Rate % 1)
    with this i'm at 96% ailment resist with same 30% agro after using charm belt + add def
    Special Gear
    Dark Fighter Bangle (Base Def: MaxMP 400 / Accuracy 3 / Aggro % 25 )
    Crystals:
    Memecoleous (ATK % -4 / Guard Rate % 5 / Aggro % 12)
    Tapir ( Ampr 10 )

    Avatar stats
    Accessory: Ailment Resistance 4% / Natural Mp Regen +4
    Top: Ampr+7 / Max HP% 5 / Vit 1%
    Bottom: Def 5% / Ailment Resistance 7%

    Defensive stats:
    Guard Rate 38 %
    Guard Power 38 %
    Physical Resistance 35 %
    Magic Resistance 50 %
    Ailment Resistance 86 %
    Aggro 133 %
    Barrier Cooldown 100 %
    Physical Barrier 0
    Magic Barrier 0
    Fractional Barrier 14 %

    Attack speed: 712 with Quick Aura (1,269) so no need for SPEED POTS
    Attack: 1076 (bloody bite purpose hp return)
    combo 1 (short range aggro+ampr1)
    shield bash > arm break(save) > sanctuary(swift) > berserk(save)>decoy(swift) = 2mp
    combo 2 (long range aggro)
    moeba > arm break(save) > guardian(swift) > berserk(cons) = 2mp
    sonic wave > > arm break(save) > guardian(swift) > berserk(cons) = 2mp
    combo 3 (short range agro + ampr2)
    smash > arm break(save)> decoy(swift) > perfect defense (smith) = 2mp
    bloody bite > arm break(save)> decoy(swift) > perfect defense (smith) = 2mp (for close combat hp return + ampr of decoy)
    First: cast aegis or protection
    Second: cast combo 2 for initial agro (long range)
    Third: when you have the boss mini at your range , cast combo 1 if incase decoy was interupted then cast combo 3
    Using Bloody bite + Guardstrike ...enjoy :)
    Current atk: 1076 with 63 dex / Bloody Bite lvl: 10 / Guardstrike lvl:10

    Previous Stats at 180:
    LVL 185...255mtl>155vit>78dex
    Hp 20,170 / Mp 1,285= lil empress garb(bossdrop)
    Curent level at 190:
    LVL 190...255mtl>155vit>88dex

    Hp 23,786 / Mp 1,790= Heaven Feather Garb
    RED TEXT = UPDATE
    BLUE TEXT = MUST HAVE
    My Total Skill Points: 266 (used 213) = sp left 38
    BLADE Skills: 16 skill points
    5 sword mastery
    5 quick slash
    5 warcry
    1 berserk


    Shot Skills: 46 skill points
    5 power shot
    5 moeba
    5 paralysis
    5 smoke dust

    1 arm break
    5 shot mastery
    5 long range
    5 quick draw

    10 decoy

    SUPPORT Skills: 25 skill points
    5 mini heal
    10 recovery
    10 sanctuary


    SURVIVAL Skills:
    5 safe rest
    10 hp boost ~ took this out due to hp is enough
    5 short rest
    10 mp boost ~ took this out due to mp is enough

    SHIELD Skill: 90 skill points
    10 shield mastery ~ aspd purpose
    10 shield bash ~ stun purpose
    10 shield cannon ~ stun purpose 2 ~ seems only good atm, for annoying mobs but can 1 hit kill
    10 guard strike
    10 Protection
    10 Aegis
    10 Guardian
    10 Force shield
    10 Magical shield


    KNIGHT Skills: 20 skill points
    5 assault
    5 parry

    10 perfect defense

    HUNTER Skills: 5 skill points
    5 kick
    10 sunrise arrow ~ trying this skill atm seems it fairly quick to cast for just 2mp and deals linear damage :) 14m at lvl 10

    MONONOFU Skills: 6 skill points
    5 bushido
    1 shukuchi

    DARK POWER Skills: 10 skill points

    10 bloody bite


    STAR GEMS Skills
    GUARD skills:

    10 heavy armor mastery
    BATTLE skills:
    10 def up
    HALBERD skills:
    10 quick aura
    HUNTER skills: (ailment sensitive boss for combo 3)
    10 kick
    BRAWLER skills: (not sensitive boss for combo 3)
    10 smash
    10 sonic
    SUPPORT skills:
    10 mini heal
    10 first aid
    *can mix and match depends on what you need
    Red text = Update or Additional gear
    BOWGUN:
    Cone horn III (
    Base ATK 180 / DEX % 6 / MaxMP 300 / Critical Rate 75 / Aggro % 15 / % stronger against Neutral 25 / Base Stability % 50)
    Crystals:
    Evil Magic Sword (Critical Damage 5 / Aggro % 10 / Attack MP Recovery 5)
    Hero Putom (MaxHP % 10 / Accuracy % 10 / Aggro % 10 / Fractional Barrier % 10)
    SHIELD
    3RD Annivesary Shield (Base DEF 36 / VIT % 5 / Guard Power % 38 / Guard Rate % 13 / Aggro % 21 / Fractional Barrier % 4)
    ARMOR
    Heaven Feather Garb (atk+6 / matk 6% / max hp 4000 / max mp 400 / revive time -30% / light resist +30 / dark +20% / neutral +10%)
    Crystal: ifrid (MaxMP 600 / Fractional Barrier % 12) will upgrade to mom fluck

    Lil empress (MaxMP 500 / Physical Resistance % 25 / Magical Resistance % 25 / Water resistance % -75 / Aggro % -15 / Attack MP Recovery 10)
    Crystal:
    Arcoiris (Natural HP Regen % 10 / MaxHP % 10 / DEF % 10)
    ~~~why this armor: resist definitely but i still have this on two: Brigadine (arco) Twilight Arm (arco)
    Add Gears
    Charm belt (Base DEF 30 MaxMP 300 / Magical Resistance % 15 / Aggro % 30 / Neutral Resistance % 10)
    Crystals:
    Candela ll (MaxHP % 20 / MaxMP -250 / ASPD 600)
    Dusk Machina (MaxHP % 20 / Aggro % 10 / Long Range Damage % -10)
    Circle of Order (Base DEF 46: Physical Resistance % 20 - / Magical Resistance % 20 - / Light resistance % 10)
    Kitty Hat (MaxHP % 15 / Ailment Resistance % 15) ~i will have 101% with this build ailment using this + hp, but lose 30% agro
    Santa beard (base 100: Ailment Resistance % 10 / Aggro % 30 / Neutral Resistance % 20 / Drop Rate % 1)
    with this i'm at 96% ailment resist with same 30% agro after using charm belt + add def
    Special Gear
    Dark Fighter Bangle (Base Def: MaxMP 400 / Accuracy 3 / Aggro % 25 )
    Crystals:
    Memecoleous (ATK % -4 / Guard Rate % 5 / Aggro % 12)
    Tapir ( Ampr 10 )

    Avatar stats
    Accessory: Guard Rate 1% / Ailment Resistant +6% / vit +3
    Top: Ampr+7 / Max HP% 5 / Vit 1%
    Bottom: Def 5% / Ailment Resistance 7%

    Defensive stats:
    AMPR 49
    DEF 770
    MDEF 555
    FLEE 191
    Guard Rate 19 %
    Guard Power 38 %
    Evasion Rate 0 %
    Physical Resistance 10 %
    Magic Resistance 10 %
    Refine Reduction 43 %
    Ailment Resistance 98 %
    Aggro 233 %
    Barrier Cooldown 100 %
    Physical Barrier 0
    Magic Barrier 0
    Fractional Barrier 26 %
    Reflect 0 %


    Attack speed:840 with Quick Aura (1,401) so no need for SPEED POTS :)
    Attack: 1,264 (bloody bite purpose hp return) w/o warcry
    combo 1 (short range aggro+ampr1)
    shield bash > arm break(save) > sanctuary(swift) > berserk(save)>decoy(swift) = 2mp
    combo 2 (long range aggro)
    moeba > arm break(save) > guardian(swift) > berserk(cons) = 2mp
    sonic wave > > arm break(save) > guardian(swift) > berserk(cons) = 2mp
    combo 3 (short range agro + ampr2)
    smash > arm break(save)> decoy(swift) > perfect defense (smith) = 2mp
    bloody bite > arm break(save)> decoy(swift) > perfect defense (smith) = 2mp (for close combat hp return + ampr of decoy)
    First: cast aegis or protection
    Second: cast combo 2 for initial agro (long range)
    Third: when you have the boss mini at your range , cast combo 1 if incase decoy was interupted then cast combo 3
    Using Bloody bite + Guardstrike ...enjoy :)
    Current atk: 1076 with 63 dex / Bloody Bite lvl: 10 / Guardstrike lvl:10
     
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    oh bago you are here too. thanks for helping me at cg
     
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    Update 4/18/19
    Video added using bloodybite and guard strike
    Click>here
    Enjoy toodles ;)
     
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